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Glenn Atterton
15-08-2009, 12:30 PM
list them here, saddle or stick

SMC 4000 Single Cell... 5025S

SMC 4940S 4900mAh 40C+ 3.7V SINGLE CELL LIPO HARD CASE

Fantom 5000 Single Cell... FAN27600

Thunder Power 5000 Pro Race Single Cell... TP5000-1SPR

Team EPIC 1 Cell Racing Li-Po Pack, 5200mAh, 3.7V, 40C Due out September, doesn't say which one though :rolleyes:

Speedzone 1s 3.7vl LiPo saddle pack (in development)


any others?

Glenn Atterton
17-08-2009, 08:25 AM
any others?


Losi 3.7V 4800mAh 1S 30C LiPo / LOSB9866

Reedy LiPo 4600mAh 3.7V 40C / #719 (uses 3.5mm female tubes)

NiMo
17-08-2009, 08:40 AM
Demon DS4235 Saddle Pack LiPo 7.4V 35C 4200mAh BRCA Legal
Size (Each saddle): 23 x 46 x 68.5mm

alan1467
17-08-2009, 08:43 AM
SMC 4940S 4900mAh 40C+ 3.7V SINGLE CELL LIPO HARD CASE

TrevCoult
17-08-2009, 09:47 AM
Demon DS4235 Saddle Pack LiPo 7.4V 35C 4200mAh BRCA Legal
Size (Each saddle): 23 x 46 x 68.5mm

These would be currently illegal for BRCA meetings running classes that require 1S packs and using the Electric Board rules as they are too high. There is a height limit of 20mm for 1S packs (93X47X20mm max. in the EB rules).

It is always possible that might change though.

Trev

Glenn Atterton
17-08-2009, 10:13 AM
These would be currently illegal for BRCA meetings running classes that require 1S packs and using the Electric Board rules as they are too high. There is a height limit of 20mm for 1S packs (93X47X20mm max. in the EB rules).

It is always possible that might change though.

Trev

12th section rules at present that is ;)

NiMo
17-08-2009, 10:48 AM
These would be currently illegal for BRCA meetings running classes that require 1S packs and using the Electric Board rules as they are too high. There is a height limit of 20mm for 1S packs (93X47X20mm max. in the EB rules).

It is always possible that might change though.

Trev

Heading:
1c LiPo, 3.7v / What's Available
list them here, saddle or stick

So I listed a pack
nothing about BRCA rules

TrevCoult
17-08-2009, 11:17 AM
Heading:
1c LiPo, 3.7v / What's Available
list them here, saddle or stick

So I listed a pack
nothing about BRCA rules

No need to get all uppity about it!

You are strictly correct but this is in the 12th scale section so worth mentioning what would actually fit the current rules (and that they could possibly change). Nothing personal intended.

It would be good if Nick released his own proper 1S LiPo though. :cool:

Trev

NiMo
17-08-2009, 11:27 AM
It would be good if Nick released his own proper 1S LiPo though. :cool:

Trev

If he had enough requests then maybe
i am now looking at 1s for GT10 hence the demon saddle
(the larger 6000 pack wont fit without modifying car)

I am going there later today (9 miles away), and will try to discuss this with him

yinkymoka
17-08-2009, 11:49 AM
I have the LRP Saddle pack fitted LRP VTEC 4800 40C single cell fits perfectly.

Glenn Atterton
17-08-2009, 11:58 AM
SMC 4940S 4900mAh 40C+ 3.7V SINGLE CELL LIPO HARD CASE

thanks Alan, added to 1st post

NiMo
17-08-2009, 05:06 PM
Ok, been to Nicks (Demon), he can get 12th sized LiPo packs, and get them in about a month, but ......

Due to issues with his 7.4v LiPo packs that were 2008 BRCA legal then rejected by the EP Board for 2009, he is reluctant to spend out on these 12th packs.
Baiscally all his LiPo packs with wires were rejected, and he was told by Paul Worsley that no packs with wires would be accepted, this cost Nick a lot of maney in cancelling orders, requesting a new style, making new orders, and sell off existing wired packs at a reduced rate to club racers.
I have showed him the BRCA list that has many wired packs, but he says his ones were rejected.

These 12th packs from his contact are wired packs, so he is not getting them in until he has confirmation on the rules concerning wires for 2009/2010 onwards, even though the legal 12th pack from SMC is wired.

So until he has confirmation, and a real reason as to why his wired 7.4v packs were rejected he wont be getting the 12th packs in.

Tim Ward
19-08-2009, 04:41 PM
Reedy LiPo 4600mAh 3.7V 40C
#719

Glenn Atterton
19-08-2009, 05:52 PM
Reedy LiPo 4600mAh 3.7V 40C
#719

see second post in thread ;)

Urzrkymn
19-08-2009, 08:35 PM
Heading:
1c LiPo, 3.7v / What's Available
list them here, saddle or stick

So I listed a pack
nothing about BRCA rules

Apart from the fact you said 'BRCA legal' in your post?


Demon DS4235 Saddle Pack LiPo 7.4V 35C 4200mAh BRCA Legal
Size (Each saddle): 23 x 46 x 68.5mm

terryh
19-08-2009, 11:34 PM
Am I missing something here, I thought Glenn was asking for 3.7v, arn't the Demon cells 7.4v?

TrevCoult
19-08-2009, 11:47 PM
Am I missing something here, I thought Glenn was asking for 3.7v, arn't the Demon cells 7.4v?

Half of a saddle pack is 3.7V, and some people have been using them in the absence of anything else, mainly in GT10s I think.

Trev

Glenn Atterton
22-08-2009, 04:14 PM
1st post update, the one in blue

yinkymoka
22-08-2009, 06:37 PM
SMC CMAX 1S Li-Polymer 4900mAH 3.7v 18.1 Wh 40C* High Performance cell now available.

terryh
22-08-2009, 09:00 PM
Half of a saddle pack is 3.7V, and some people have been using them in the absence of anything else, mainly in GT10s I think.

Trev

Trev

Thaks for clearing that up for me :)

terryh
22-08-2009, 09:02 PM
SMC CMAX 1S Li-Polymer 4900mAH 3.7v 18.1 Wh 40C* High Performance cell now available.

Any news on when something like this will be available as a saddle pack?

jas1
22-08-2009, 09:09 PM
Ive just asked the question on am American forum just awaiting an answer bout the speedzone lipo, think the brick style pack is due any time, latest update I saw the saddle pack will be 4600 mAh at 40c

Glenn Atterton
18-09-2009, 04:25 PM
last count was for 5 in 1st post that possibly fit the the bill but still only one on the BRCA list and only 4 weeks before the 1st National :eek:

Dave Treacy
18-09-2009, 05:56 PM
I have my national entry form filled in but not sending off until I see the others updated...

Dave Treacy
19-09-2009, 03:47 PM
Just checked the EB 1S list again and only the SMC is listed, so until uncle Wim's Thunder Powers get onto the list I guess my entry form stays on my desk, which is a pity...

alan1467
19-09-2009, 04:59 PM
It would be nice if the new SMC 4900mah 40C also got on the list

Amc
20-09-2009, 10:58 PM
Just checked the EB 1S list again and only the SMC is listed, so until uncle Wim's Thunder Powers get onto the list I guess my entry form stays on my desk, which is a pity...

Will be submitted this week

jas1
27-09-2009, 05:57 PM
Just came across a couple more 1s packs

ProTek R/C 1S "Supreme Power" Li-Poly 40C Hard Case Battery Pack (3.7V/4700mAh)
[PTK-LPH-4700-1S40] ***

Maybe only 4700mah but can be charged at 2c!

And then there's a cell by pushpower, 5000mah 1s 40c, but can't find much info on it

Jim Spencer
27-09-2009, 06:07 PM
Hi

Just in case this helps:-

http://www.rcracechat.com/vb/showthread.php?t=52790

first post, about 10 lines in..

jas1
27-09-2009, 06:57 PM
Hi

Just in case this helps:-

http://www.rcracechat.com/vb/showthread.php?t=52790

first post, about 10 lines in..

not really.....

The thread is about what's available not what's on brca list, else it would be very short list!

Jim Spencer
27-09-2009, 07:04 PM
not really.....

The thread is about what's available not what's on brca list, else it would be very short list!

Ok, just trying to help :rolleyes: as there's at least one bloke on here who's not going to race at the Nationals as there's only one 1s lipo on the list, so thought it worth a mention..

It would appear the trade haven't got their act together on this one, as obviously if cells had been submitted the list would be longer, hence the 'half a saddle pack' option.

If that's not good enough, I suggest you have a quiet 'word' with the suppliers of the cell's you've found to see what they are doing about their homologation.

jas1
27-09-2009, 07:15 PM
Well am guessing the the manufactures are concentrating on the USA, rather than us unfortunetly, and on the most part there arnt that many uk suppliers for what's available

MattW
27-09-2009, 07:30 PM
I think Jim's point, is that if there is a distributor, and they submit to the BRCA, then it can go on our list. Simples.

So it kind of doesn't really matter about the US, and just requires UK based distributors to sort it and get them submitted.

PDW
27-09-2009, 07:56 PM
And it is a Catch 22 - distributors don't import cells because there's no demand, and there's no demand because there are no cells on the list. However, there is no limitation on who can submit cells for approval, and I know of one 'supplier' who is submitting cells for approval. It'll come, but as usual, moaning on here does nothing.

As Jim has said, save your breath and effort for getting a supplier to submit it. Progress has a price, and that is usually some hard work! HTH :)

acurry
27-09-2009, 08:16 PM
Having run 1cell at Chesterfield GP i'm hooked and having soke to Mr AMC he has some cells on route and is planning to submit them.

So the list should grow very shortly

Dave Treacy
27-09-2009, 08:42 PM
Alan, it's Wim's cells I'm waiting for approval of...

Amc
28-09-2009, 08:21 AM
Alan, it's Wim's cells I'm waiting for approval of...
Not in the UK yet Dave but as soon as will submit

rcdunk
28-09-2009, 10:21 AM
will they be here and leagle before the first national hopefully a couple of weeks before so we can at least have a run with them ? i have brca leagle saddles but they dont fit unless i move the front shock mount up guess its a case of if i hav to i will try but would rather use the ones intended to be used in the car

acurry
28-09-2009, 06:22 PM
Alan, it's Wim's cells I'm waiting for approval of...

the way i see it is don't blame Wim he is trying to get the cells in the uk and on the list, as the distributers are not!.

But if they do not know what people want they will not get it in so I would sugest a call or email to the distributor's other than that be paitent and Wim will get this sorted.

V8POWER
29-09-2009, 12:52 AM
well said alan if you want stuff listed the distributor should be doing it and not the shops good stuff wimm as usual left to you to sort things out ;)

Amc
29-09-2009, 04:45 PM
Will be submitted this week

Just to let you know EB approval is awaited on one cell two others are imminent due in a week/10 days . Last one is delayed from China as from the 1st October there will be a 60 year celebration and a weeks long holiday for the whole country.

yinkymoka
29-09-2009, 07:35 PM
One is waiting, 2 others due soon.

Which 1S lipos are these.

acurry
29-09-2009, 09:25 PM
One is waiting, 2 others due soon.

Which 1S lipos are these.


be paitent Vince:eek:

PDW
30-09-2009, 06:18 AM
He is a patient, we nurse him through everything!! :D :D

yinkymoka
30-09-2009, 09:05 AM
Yes and i go private, not a scrounger pay for every thing I have .No NHS for me.

PDW
30-09-2009, 07:19 PM
Good to know Vince. Next time I'll charge you for anything you get through the 12th National Help Service!! ;) :D

nobby
30-09-2009, 08:24 PM
Good to know Vince. Next time I'll charge you for anything you get through the 12th National Help Service!! ;) :D

wow somebody has a downer on vince atm:rolleyes:

PDW
01-10-2009, 06:34 AM
Downer? No chance. Here's a man with money who wants to pay for things. I'm up, up, up on Vince right now!! ;)

jason
03-10-2009, 07:45 PM
Thunder Power 40c cell will be BRCA legal from 5th October.

Jason

Amc
05-10-2009, 08:32 AM
http://www.brca.org/BRCA/elecboard/news/2009%20BRCA%201S%20LiPo%20List%202009B.pdf

Amc
06-10-2009, 01:37 PM
Another battery has been sent in for inclusion in the list

MikeS
06-10-2009, 02:34 PM
Just to also add that another 1S LiPo is also going in to the EB for approval, the Team Corally supplied IP5000/40C 1S, which is also already ROAR approved.

Russ
11-10-2009, 09:12 PM
Updated list to be posted on the BRCA site tomorrow
Includes Reedy, IP and SMC cells

Edit

Its there now!

Glenn Atterton
11-10-2009, 09:27 PM
Updated list to be posted on the BRCA site tomorrow
Includes Reedy, IP and SMC cells

Edit

Its there now!

well done all involved in getting them passed

think I'll be running NiMh though till they die :rolleyes:

bs6ef
12-10-2009, 09:21 AM
I think i'll be switching over straight away, my cells at the weekend really let me down, they just had no punch in them at all

Chris ODonoghue
12-10-2009, 11:27 AM
any news on the SMC 4900 40C ?

MikeS
12-10-2009, 12:05 PM
UPDATE:
The IP5000/40C 1S LiPo is now BRCA approved AND AVAILABLE FROM STOCK RIGHT NOW ;)

Russ
12-10-2009, 12:18 PM
any news on the SMC 4900 40C ?

The only other SMC battery we are aware of being submitted is the 4900 50C with internal corally connectors.
It appears that the 4900 40C may have been superceded, unfortunately there is no info on the SMC website.

Chris ODonoghue
12-10-2009, 01:49 PM
I think it may have been superceded, but it's the same shape as the 50C one (no humps on the bottom) and has internal corally style connectors as well.

jason
12-10-2009, 05:12 PM
SMC do a 50c with the tubes, the same cell as the one with the deans plug that is on the list.

Jason

MarkRichards
12-10-2009, 06:19 PM
does this mean many peoplewill be running lipo this season ?

Chris ODonoghue
12-10-2009, 07:23 PM
just that i've got a 40c one.. I'll keep that for club racing :)

Amc
12-10-2009, 07:47 PM
does this mean many peoplewill be running lipo this season ?

Think there will be about 10 at the nationals at the last count but there are around 30-40 club runners.

Amc
12-10-2009, 07:49 PM
just that i've got a 40c one.. I'll keep that for club racing :)

Current production is the 50C cell the 40C was only produced through August early September HTH

Glenn Atterton
14-10-2009, 04:38 PM
SMC do a 50c with the tubes, the same cell as the one with the deans plug that is on the list.



so which ones legal for the weekend

with wires or with tubes

jason
14-10-2009, 05:01 PM
Glenn,

It's being worked on at the moment, hopefully both will be legal by the weekend.

Jason.

Glenn Atterton
14-10-2009, 05:14 PM
Glenn,

It's being worked on at the moment, hopefully both will be legal by the weekend.

Jason.

:cool: not that I have any mind you :eek:

jason
14-10-2009, 06:55 PM
Well there are a few sat on a shelf in Torquay!!

Jason

jason
14-10-2009, 06:58 PM
just that i've got a 40c one.. I'll keep that for club racing :)

Committee call but I don't think it will be a problem.

Jason

Chris ODonoghue
14-10-2009, 07:48 PM
I'll bring it along with me, but get one from the list just in case

jason
15-10-2009, 12:38 PM
Updated Lipo list now on BRCA site.

Jason

008-Racer
16-10-2009, 10:57 PM
Well I have just got in from an amazing nights racing using my new SMC 50C lipos, awesome speed and power great fun and wow the corner speed!!!

Used with a Nosram Pearl (Max Settings) GM10.5 and a Novak Booster all worked perfectly

You boys at the Nationals will have a ball

Good luck chaps!

Amc
19-10-2009, 08:53 AM
7 runners on the Saturday and 11 on the Sunday best result I believe was Chris Clarke qualifying in the Sportsman's A final with a BD12RR using SMC 50C too.

Glenn Atterton
20-10-2009, 01:12 PM
****** NEW 1S LIPO WAITING BRCA APPROVAL ********

Available soon ???

ARR-TWD40-5000 ARROWIND 3.7V HARD CASE 1S LIPO 500MA 40C

stewcc
20-10-2009, 02:46 PM
Take is a typo Glenn. Even you might dump a 500mA cell:D

Regards

"Murray"

Glenn Atterton
20-10-2009, 02:58 PM
Take is a typo Glenn.

not by me, by Wim, as that's how it is on the AMC site. I just c&p'd it.

Amc
20-10-2009, 06:57 PM
not by me, by Wim, as that's how it is on the AMC site. I just c&p'd it.
DOH!

Glenn Atterton
28-10-2009, 08:56 AM
LiPo saddles soon according to recent post on State side Serpent 120 forum


Originally Posted by cm
Not so fast, Gavin at Speedzone is working on a saddle 1s lipo. I've trial fit the dimensions of the pack on my 120 and it will fit so there is a viable lipo comming for the t-bar owners, just dont know when it'll be avalible.

reply from speedzone rep

I'll have a date for all on Friday so don't get rid of your s120 t-bar cars just yet!

rep hasn't said which Friday though :D

Glenn Atterton
01-11-2009, 01:37 PM
Team Scream Racing 3.7V 5000 MAH 40C HARD CASE LIPO

it's ROAR LEGAL but not BRCA :(


This 5000 Mah 45C rated lipo pack will take you the winners circle. We have tested the best and our pack out performes it. If you need punch for the stock class this is the pack you want.

This pack measures 20mm x 46.5mm x 92mm

Will be instock on OCT 20th. You can pre-order

jason
01-11-2009, 05:19 PM
If it's 20mm high it will end up being taken off the Roar list in 12 months or so when it gets changed to 19.5mm.

Jason

Heinz
01-11-2009, 06:38 PM
18.5 ;)

jason
01-11-2009, 07:25 PM
18.5 ;)

I knew that :o

Jason

alan1467
10-11-2009, 03:23 PM
Demon DP5040 1S (3.7V) 5000mAh 40C LiPo for 1/12th

not sure if it's been submitted to the BRCA yet

Glenn Atterton
10-11-2009, 04:19 PM
****** NEW 1S LIPO WAITING BRCA APPROVAL ********

ARR-TWD40-5000 ARROWIND 3.7V HARD CASE 1S LIPO 500MA 40C


it's now on the BRCA list :D

Russ
15-11-2009, 05:23 PM
Demon DP5040 1S (3.7V) 5000mAh 40C LiPo for 1/12th

not sure if it's been submitted to the BRCA yet

Submitted and passed
Will be on the list as of tomorrow

Glenn Atterton
14-01-2010, 11:59 AM
new on Schumacher site is the Speed Power SP 5500mah 45C

wonder if this will be on the list soon

Lohan
16-01-2010, 09:38 PM
I was on the verge of selling my 12th car - but due to derisoryoffers i decided to keep it.

I have no cells, and have decided to use my reflex 12 for the purposes of practice alone.

With that in mind can one buy a saddle pack of cells and split it into two lipo packs?

Failing that what is the cheapest of the lipo packs?

Is it easy to balance lipos on a t bar?

Glenn Atterton
16-01-2010, 09:48 PM
With that in mind can one buy a saddle pack of cells and split it into two lipo packs?



Yes.

Also due out is the Speedzone 1s 3.7v LiPo saddle pack for t-bar cars. Google for them.

Glenn Atterton
16-01-2010, 09:52 PM
Google for them.

I just did :D


their website says


Speedzone 1S Pro 5200 mAh 3.7v 50C Saddle Lipo

Pre-Order Item - ships week of January 4th 2010

Glenn Atterton
19-01-2010, 08:36 PM
wonder if this will be on the list soon

ditto

CRC Maxxcell 5200mAh 1S LiPo pack announced