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Skiddins
15-04-2009, 02:32 PM
Anyone know what the new Nosram version of LRP's SXX will be called?

Also, does the SXX etc have the same stock profiles as the Nosram 'Spec' Evolution (Stock Racing version), or is it mainly for Mod racing?
Their website doesn't give a lot of detail

Thanks
Skiddins

Chris ODonoghue
15-04-2009, 03:07 PM
possibly the Pearl ? have heard that name being bandied around

Jim_1987
15-04-2009, 04:16 PM
Mirage said it will be called Pearl, and it's due end of the month. :cool:

Smartypants
15-04-2009, 04:20 PM
Yes it is called the Nosram Pearl. sadly it will not have the same profiles as the Stock spec on it. The Pearl and SXX have been made to be super efficient for modified racing.

Jim_1987
15-04-2009, 04:42 PM
Do the profiles make a big difference? I was looking to get the pearl for my 13.5 and 10.5 motors.

reuben_manning
15-04-2009, 05:24 PM
In one of the magazines rrci or race car a few months back (the article on the worlds) there was a picture of a 12th car with a little red-speedo with Pearl written on-top ;)

sorry i cant give any more info but im stuck at work and the mag is at home in the loo :cool:

Skiddins
15-04-2009, 06:49 PM
Do the profiles make a big difference? I was looking to get the pearl for my 13.5 and 10.5 motors.

YES!

I will not be buying the 'Pearl' or SXX unless they have those profiles!
I run 10.5

steveonamission
15-04-2009, 07:51 PM
The pearl is designed for modified racing NOT stock racing...........it doesnt have the stock profiles of what the Matrix Stock spec speedo has, they are different speedo's entirely

The Pearl is released tomorrow in the UK.

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15-04-2009, 08:49 PM
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steveonamission
15-04-2009, 09:50 PM
Yes, but from what i know, it doesnt have the special stock profiles of what the Stock spec or lrp equiv has......its designed for modified racing NOT stock racing. Yes it has stock profiles, but there not a touch on the Stock Spec Speedo profiles.

Why would they release a stock spec speedo on its own then!?

Edit: Nicely Edited by Mr. Christopher, he was ranting on about how wrong i am in his original post : /

Viking
16-04-2009, 08:55 AM
With 10 profiles this speed controller WILL be good for stock racing. The internal technology is more advanced than the Matrix....

The stock-spec version of the Matrix is still avialable if anyone remains unconvinced....

For me - its the Pearl.... for mod AND stock

Viking
16-04-2009, 09:05 AM
Nosram have a Stock spec racing combo which includes the stock spec motor and a Matrix stock spec speed controller...

So for stock spec specialists this is the package to go for.

Skiddins
17-04-2009, 06:24 PM
From Andreas Myberg at LRP;


Hi Damian,

The SXX Competition #80900 nore the SXX TC-Spec #80950 won't feature any stock spec software or hardware like the SPX Stock Spec #80710.

/Andreas

There's your answer, the SPX/Spec-racing are the ESC's for the stock classes.

steveonamission
18-04-2009, 12:06 AM
Thankyou!

potloodslijper
21-04-2009, 02:52 PM
What would you advice for 2wd buggy racing as this is 7,5 and 8,5 (sometimes 9,5) on Li-Po? SXX or Stock Spec?

Blueskieshlg
21-04-2009, 03:18 PM
is the nosram matrix evo spec 90710 the same as the lrp spx competition 80710 basically the same but differant coloured cases?

Secondly are the above ESC any better than the lrp tc one i have? I run 13.5 cheers

potloodslijper
21-04-2009, 03:22 PM
Better? Yes, the Stock Spec ESC will give a lot more punch, but that doesn't make you faster.

Skiddins
21-04-2009, 05:33 PM
They seem to have higher rpm once you've reached full throttle.
IT does seem to add a lot of temperature to the motor though so you have to be carefull.

I don't know if it would be any use off road due to the rpm coming at full throttle, are you ever on a flat enough piece of track to use it without shredding tyres etc?

potloodslijper
21-04-2009, 06:41 PM
I'm racing on carpet/astroturf 70% of the time, and these circuits are quite flat on the straights etc.
The comparison between the SXX and Stock Spec isn't about power for me, but about being able to adjust it perfect for offroad and 7,5-8,5-9,5 motors as I don't really know whether LRP thinks those are modified or stock.

Skiddins
22-04-2009, 06:26 PM
As for the comparison of the profiles between SPX StockSpec (#80710) and Sphere Competition (#80700) or Sphere Competition TC-Spec (#80750)

80700 vs. 80750:
- later batches of both models had identical profiles and hardware, only difference was the integrated heatsink/fan on 80750.
- earlier batches of 80700 (before 2007-edition came out and first batch of 2007-edition) had slightly different hardware but software was always identical.

profile difference between 80710 vs. 80700/80750:
- profiles 1-4 are identical on all speedos.
- 5-8 on 80710 are the real stock profiles, 7+8 are the extreme ones were you need much lower gearing.
- 5+6 on 80710 are actually fairly similar to 7+8 on 80700/80750 (but not identical)

hardware difference between 80710 vs. 80700/80750:
- apart from the obvious (heatsink/fan) there is also a hardware change in 80710 which was needed to gain most of advanced timing features.
- this change also had a nice side effect of a stronger push brake on 80710 (dragbrake is not affected).
- fet's and other hardware is identical between all 3 speedos.


Complicated to explain, but I hope I could help a bit.
__________________
Reto Koenig
LRP electronic GmbH

Skiddins
22-04-2009, 06:28 PM
I'm racing on carpet/astroturf 70% of the time, and these circuits are quite flat on the straights etc.
The comparison between the SXX and Stock Spec isn't about power for me, but about being able to adjust it perfect for offroad and 7,5-8,5-9,5 motors as I don't really know whether LRP thinks those are modified or stock.

They mention 8.5 with regard to stock, so it would seem you motors straddle the Stock-Modified area

Blueskieshlg
22-04-2009, 08:38 PM
Thanks for the info Skiddins, really good stuff.
Is the Nosram evo spec the same as the lrp SPX?

potloodslijper
22-04-2009, 09:28 PM
They mention 8.5 with regard to stock, so it would seem you motors straddle the Stock-Modified area
Thanks for your help, I think I'll buy the SXX then, it is smaller and normally we only use power profiles 1-4 :)

Skiddins
22-04-2009, 11:18 PM
Thanks for the info Skiddins, really good stuff.
Is the Nosram evo spec the same as the lrp SPX?

Yes, they almost have the same part number as well;
90710 for the Nosram, LRP's SPX Comp is 80710!

Skiddins

reuben_manning
27-04-2009, 02:17 PM
Has anyone had the chance to back-to-back the Pearl vs the Stock Spec speedo? I would be interested to see the results? especially for the higher wound motors... eg 10.5, 13.5, 17.5.

JonboyGB
11-05-2009, 05:11 PM
Hi

Which profiles on the SXX are best suited for 10.5?

Jim_1987
11-05-2009, 05:14 PM
I'm using profile 5 for 13.5, and it's very quick! The gearing is a lot different to my Novak GTB.

JonboyGB
12-05-2009, 12:40 PM
Thanks Jamie.

I'm running the speedo for the first time this weekend. Looking forward to seeing the improvements.

008-Racer
12-09-2009, 08:23 AM
So guys these speedos have been out a while now what are your thoughts does the Pearl have any advance timing options? And can it run with the Stock Spec speedos