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MarkB
06-10-2008, 08:38 PM
Evening all,

Exciting times for the GT class, as the BRCA 1/10th Electric Circuit section AGM will debate proposed rules and meetings for this class.

The rules for what has been called the GT10 class have been proposed by PDW and Jason (regular posters here). They can be found on the Central Booking site.

Remember these are proposed and if you want to come along and debate the rules and the running of this exciting new class, then the section AGM is the place to do it.

Details of when and where the BRCA AGM will be held can be found on www.brca.org

Mark
BRCA 1/10th Electric Circuit Section Secretary & Safety Officer

PDW
07-10-2008, 06:28 AM
On the bottom of the Rules there is a reference to other pan-chassis classes. Just to save a host of posts on this, the BRCA Electric Circuit Section already has Rules for Pro10 and F1. If you want to race these classes, you will need to get these Rules re-instated in the Handbook. There is no need to amend the GT Rules, as Rules for these classes already exist.

We're really looking forward to racing these cars and to developing a low-cost, competitive class that's as at home indoors as out. Look forward to seeing sone, or all of you at the AGM.

Rob Fitzgerald
07-10-2008, 06:59 AM
I had a read of the rules and they all looked pretty good to me AND nice and simple which is great.

With some of the new chassis out there and the latest shells they will look great as well as the other potential benefits too.

Will be watching with interest

alan1467
12-10-2008, 11:02 AM
Looks good, loved the old Pro10 and looking at doing this next year


Alan

NiMo
12-10-2008, 10:24 PM
Aldershot's (low cost) FGT2 class is getting more interest, 8 entries at todays non championship round running either Tamiya Sports Tuned or HPI Saturn 20T, with at least 2 more due next week, and others in the "very tempting" stage.
(We did have one FGT1 runner today, running a 19T, who is going FGT2 next time out).
Thing is, our rules do not fit in to the proposed National rules as most of us use LiPo packs, even though our speeds would be down on the 4 cell 10.5 runners.

Geraldo
13-10-2008, 07:33 PM
The action at Aldershot was pretty good the track was damp to start with round one going to the man with a set of old school damps. Track dried slowly with only the corner under the rostrum not fully drying.
The choice became more and more to use additive but if your weren't careful you were hero to zero under the rostrum.

Good selecton of cars Associated 10L3 HPI Roadstar Homebrew Tamiya 103RS or GT and a good old Tamiya F1 103 in the hands of rob baxter sporting a martin brundle benneton shell.

It looks a good formula £6 Saturn motors and lipos make for an easy days racing with lots of smiles. Not sure you can get a hardcased lipo in a 10R5.

I'm in at the next meeting but how to choose between an HPI F1 or a 10L3 with a Lotus Elise shell?.

G.

NiMo
13-10-2008, 10:48 PM
Not sure who used the additive, but us with the Kawahara tyres never use any, and had some grip in the damp conditions.
Just waiting for my NasTruck shell to arrive :D

jason
26-10-2008, 08:23 PM
Having just got back from the AGM the rules have been voted in so all that remains now is to get some racing under way.

Jason

alan1467
26-10-2008, 08:34 PM
Was it as per the proposed ones?

Looking forward to this racing

Alan

Mark Stiles
26-10-2008, 10:36 PM
Was it as per the proposed ones?

Looking forward to this racing

Alan

Pretty much to be honest. There were a couple of minor changes, such as an amendment to the rule regarding suspension. Instead of saying it has to be sliding kingpin only, it now reads that you can only have one moving wishbone element. This allows for the use of the single wishbone corally front end, which wouldnt have been allowed under the original proposal.

Please bear in mind (and this was stressed at the AGM) that these rules do not stipulate the requirement for a national series. Next year a class will be run to gauge interest, and if the support shown warrants a national event(s) then this may be something to consider for future seasons.

Personally I think its all looking great (apart from not being able to use the PF Mulsanne shell!), and it is looking highly likely that I will get one to have a play with next year. There is also talk of an 'invitational' race meeting being organised in conjunction with the BRCA demos at this years Autosport show...:cool:

NiMo
26-10-2008, 11:03 PM
Instead of saying it has to be sliding kingpin only, it now reads that you can only have one moving wishbone element. This allows for the use of the single wishbone corally front end, which wouldnt have been allowed under the original proposal.
So that means the Tamiya F103 is not legal?

(apart from not being able to use the PF Mulsanne shell!)
guess these rules will not work at Aldershot. We have our rules sorted.

Mark Stiles
26-10-2008, 11:47 PM
I guess its designed to be a race class that utilises the new 200mm pan cars that have recenly been released with a definitive set of rules, rather than being a 'race what you bring' class similar to what has been run at aldershot in recent times...:cool:

mi2driver
27-10-2008, 12:04 AM
it will be good to see these cars in action , we have been runing them at our club for acouple of weeks and they seem to be creating a lot of interest.

PDW
27-10-2008, 07:36 AM
Nigel, as I recall the F103, it has a fixed lower wishbone and a moving upper wishbone, so it's fine to use in this class.

Just to clear it up - we have got Rules for running a class for GT cars. The 10th Track Section still has Rules for Pro10 (LMP) and F1 and these can be restored on request to the Committee. All three classes can run alongside each other at any meeting that is organised. We have the return of 10th Scale Pan Cars (and apparently a lot of interest in them) and not the inclusion or exclusion of any particular class of car.

NiMo
27-10-2008, 06:07 PM
'race what you bring'

I find that very offensive
and it shows how little you know about Aldershot

Mark Stiles
28-10-2008, 01:51 AM
I find that very offensive
and it shows how little you know about Aldershot

Thats not how it was intended Nigel, so sorry if thats how you read it.

What I meant was that the new rules proposal was based around the new 200mm pan cars that are being released by the likes of associated, corally and crc.

The rules could have read 'any pan car chassis', but had that been the case then a decent driver with a well setup 235mm pro 10 car would wipe the floor with all of the new 200mm cars I think, which is not how the class is intended to be.

To be honest the class you have been running at Aldershot played a part in the suggestion to create this new class, as it helped people to gauge whether there might be an interest in it.:cool:

MarkB
29-10-2008, 11:05 PM
Easy all!

Let's celebrate the fact we have the first new Electric Circuit class for years in place and ready to.

And celebrate the clubs we have like Aldershot and Bedworth who have for years shown the way with the classes they run. Stafford and WLRC too before I forget and get told off (again :p )

Now the AGM has voted GT10 in, the section committee will be looking to support and arrange meetings for the class. If interest levels were high enough I see no reason why Pro 10, F1 and other pan cars couldn't be accomodated in seperate classes at those meetings.

As Pete says there are still rules in the BRCA Archive for those cars. What didn't exist in the UK until last Sunday was a recognised GT10 class for 200mm cars.

Stay tuned for more exciting news on this class :D

Cheers
Mark

NiMo
29-10-2008, 11:27 PM
The Protoform ORT shell fit nicely on my F103 :D

MikeS
29-10-2008, 11:51 PM
V1.0 of the GT10 class rules, as ratified at the AGM have now been published at CentralBooking (http://centralbooking.org)

bs6ef
30-10-2008, 01:35 PM
Well done to who ever came up with theses rules, alot better than the American WGT rules that spec a 13.5t motor on 4.8volts(Yawn:)), now thats gonna be slow racing. Looking forward to the weekend so i get the car out and stretch its legs.

MikeS
30-10-2008, 01:56 PM
Thank the proposers and the body of drivers who attended the AGM to discuss and modify the draft rules into what has been published ;)

bs6ef
30-10-2008, 05:29 PM
What clubs are going to be running these on a regular basis during the winter? Me and a couple of guys at my club are looking for a club to race against some other driver and share setups etc.

Steve

MikeS
31-10-2008, 01:42 AM
Illustrated GT-10 bodyshell list is now online at Centralbooking (http://centralbooking.org)

alan1467
31-10-2008, 09:41 AM
Good to see all this my CRC is on it's way. Do we know when dates/tracks will be listed for meetings?

Alan

NiMo
31-10-2008, 08:38 PM
What clubs are going to be running these on a regular basis during the winter? Me and a couple of guys at my club are looking for a club to race against some other driver and share setups etc.

Steve

Aldershot will be running an open class and it's own Sealed Can class (renamed GT3) at future club meetings