Evo IV

[John Davie]

The rumours are strarting already that the 415 will not be raced at the worlds and instead the Tamiya drivers will be using a new EVO IV chassis, i have no idea if this is true or not but i look forward to finding out.

[Tamiya_Racer]

yeah i agree. the suspense is kind of killing me. But i proberly wont buy one, the evo3 is doing great still has some hidden potential i wanna find.

I think its only fair for tamiya haveing to release the evo4 as a kind of compensation for evo3 buyers i guess.

Im guessing its going to be very similar to the evo3/415 in suspension becasue if thats true then they would really want a chassis that can handle they way they want it too if they plan on useing it at teh worlds which isnt too far away i belive!.. but i trust them.. looking at the 415s exellent results and if they belive they will better this then.. GREAT!

Tarnj

[cobra81li200]

If they release the Evo 4 before the worlds, I reckon the TRF Drivers will be allowed to use the one they prefer.

However, the information I had from R10 was that the 415 was the car for the worlds and not the Evo 4. But this was just after the anouncement of the 415...

[Waco Jacko]

Bear in mind that the Evo3 is the most successful Evo chassis to date and noticeably is the 1st of the Evos that now has a 'plastic' equivalent (TB02), puts in my mind the fact that Tamiya have settled on a significant chassis layout and the cheaper chassis versions tend to be well supported and are released in all sorts of 'budget' deals.

Besides meaning that there is hope for new racers out there starting with a race-bred chassis, but also spares are assured for the high end chassis' like my Evo3 and Evo3 SE.

So, is there an Evo4 en route? I can't say its unlikely owing to the frequent release of the previous Evos (within a year of each other- the Surikarn Edition even sooner!) Tamiya tend to update the Evos with yet another Evo no. and based on their track record (like that?) I think we'll see one, and maybe soon!

[Tamiya_Racer]

Yeah very true mate, and you can expect another evo next year and maybe the year after and after untill they get the chassis which they think cant be improved anymore, its a revolutionary chassis so thats what you can expect matey

[John Davie]

I have heard from a number of places that Tamiya are indeed working on the EVO IV , more details should be coming out after the japan hobby show.

[Garry]

They change car quicker than Yokomo did in the mid-'90s!

So, which will be the top-level Tamiya Touring Car?

Evo IV or TRF415?

[John Davie]

The Japan market demands companys like tamiya , yokomo bring out cars every six months or so hence so many models.

From what i have heard the EVO IV will be the one used at the worlds as it is tamiya's own car , the 415 is a reworking of a tech racing car which was done between the two companys.

Nothing is set in stone yet so we will have to sit back and see what tamiya do.

[rich_p]

See the link below,

The evo4 is due to be shown at the Tamiya open Day in Japan in may.

http://www.tamiya.com/english/show0405/show0405.htm

[Tamiya_Racer]

Well how i see it is tamiya's decision to drive the evo4 at the worlds is based on previous experience. like the TRF drivers changed to the evo3 from the 414 at the Thai race becasue they believed they could get it going faster which proved to be true...
So im guessing the evo4 will be like an evolution from the evo3 ( of coarse ) with some adaptions from the 415.. suspension ? middle decks?

I really hope the evo4 is still a 1 piece prop just that its reworked so you dont have to do so much work after to get rid of any binding or anything like that.

I really like the 1 piece over most 3 piece systems ive seen, its just soo light , efficient and quite therefore proving to have a lower rotational mass and also less fidely.


we'll have to wait and see for now...

thanks
Tarnj

[John Davie]

I hope they use the same wishbones as they seem to use on all the top level cars as this means that anyone who has an EVO III or 414 or 415 and TAO4's ( i think ) will have easy access to some spares.

One area i would like to see improved is the gears , not just getting rib of the binding issue but making them as light as they can and as strong as they can. Alloy gearboxes as standard would be nice as i was shocked how rigid the EVO III SE was once i added them.

Im just waiting now for more details , i really hope they dont do something stupid just to make it differant from the EVO III.

[John Davie]

Release date in japan is planned for July , watch this space.

[Genem]

I feel so sad. I have a TRF 415, and now its going to be old. :mad:

[Garry]

I guess the RRP will be more than £300, right?

[peejay]

I guess the RRP will be more than £300, right?

47,800 Yen which is about £246 at todays exchange rate. Import duty and VAT will take that to almost £300 without taking into account shipping costs and the importers profit margin, so 'fraid you're about right Garry :(

[Garry]

Start saving now then.

;)

[Genem]

It would be cool if the EvoIV was shaft drive for old times sake. I really doubt it though, because the main shaft engineer left.

[John Davie]

The EVO IV has a new 3 peice prop shaft.

[Hejkal]

Did you find any new pics?

BTW, I ordered EVO IV :-))

[B_Final_Bob]

All this Evo 4 talk... i've just bought a brand new Evo 3 Surikarn edition! I don't really see how you can make a shaft drive car much better really, the TC3 still wins in the hands of factory drivers and club racers. Even if you put it up against a Pro 4, Yoke SD, Tamiya Evo 3 it will still be competitive against them. The Tamiya Evo 3 will be the same, it'll take a driver like Surikarn to honestly know the difference between them.

Anyway... i'm off to build a TB Evo 3 :)

Liam

[Modena]

Evo 4 pics ! Check this out !

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/show0405/news0405/news7.htm

This pics shown as a full option chassis. The standard kit will look a little different. The price is 10,000 yen lower than the 415. Tamiya seem to push buyer to spend their hard earning on hop-up and I guess a full option kit will release if this Evo4 win the world later this year.

Is this EVO 4 developed by Tamiya itself or together with Tech Racing like the 415 ?

[peejay]

Certainly looks the part - lean and mean :cool: Not so sure about the lack of gearbox covers though - grease attracts dirt like a magnet :eek:

[Tamiya_Racer]

there are gearbox covers, they are optional though.

for more pics visit the following links.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=878347

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=878353

http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/?wb_url=http://www.teamjoybox.com/&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2&wb_co=excitejapan

Tarnjit

[John Davie]

So Tarnjit , how long before you put in an order for an EVO IV then ?

[Tamiya_Racer]

haha i keep asking myself the same question! Firstly i wont order anything until i get proper feedback on track performance ( even though i was told its Amazing ). Secondly i have no money at all !

I think ill finish this seasons racing the evo3 as its looking sweet and going pretty good, as the evo4 dont share the same suspension it may take some time to adopt to also.

Im quite impressed by the looks of the car it seems they really have found all the weaknesses of the evo3 and worked on them.
the lengthened wishbones seem quite nice, not sure about the alloy gear :confused: . Looks stiff with those bulkheads but i was hoping for some middle decks like in the 415.

Altogether i feel tamiya have a winning chassis for sure and im hoping to get one this year. ( Surikarn edition for xmas? )

Tarnj

[peejay]

Tarnjit

Thanks for the links to the piccys :)

[Tamiya_Racer]

http://www.hobby.co.jp/hobby_show/rc/01.htm

more pics, also some new 415 goodies

[Modena]

http://f1rl.com/shizouka_hobby_show_report.htm

Check this out ! A full report of Tamiya Shizuoka Japan Show!

[John Davie]

I have an EVO IV kit on pre-order but due to a change in direction of my racing i no longer need it, if you are interested in buying this kit from me please email me at talktomeuk@hotmail.com with the subject tittle of EVO IV to make sure i do not erase it as junk mail.

The kit is due for release on the 16th of july so if no interst is shown be the end of the week i will cancel my order.

[Dan Hughes]

Hi there i have read somwhere that the Evo IV is designed for use at large open tracks and the 415 is built for smaller tighter tracks. The evo is not replacing the 415. Im getting tempted to buy a 415!! And there are some new wishbones on the evo IV. They were used on the 415 at the Reedy Race.

[radosteve]

Well the 415 one the Reedy 2004 Race, so can't see why they won't race it at the worlds............

Still want an evo 4 though :)

Steve

[Dan Hughes]

It will be some and some. At the asia race evo 3's and prototype 415 were used so there could be a mix at the worlds!

[John Davie]

Interesting to see the price of the EVO IV has dropped in japan, now 20% lower than first listed so its going to be a very well priced indeed.

[Tamiya_Racer]

maybe true John, but from what i hear the spec of the kit has gone down alot from when first seen. Turnbuckles are the little black steel ones for eg, 2.5mm lower deck. and so on.

im loving the 415 at the moment :D

[John Davie]

Think you have been spoiled with your Evo III SE limited edition and TRF415 as the Evo IV a better spec than the origanal Evo III and now far cheaper too.

[Tamiya_Racer]

hehe yeah sounds about right :D

[B_Final_Bob]

I might wait till after the worlds, if Tamiya win or do well they might bring out an Evo 4 "Surikarn Edition" (or maybe a Rheinard edition?) with all the shiny bits on.

I'm quite interested in getting a 415 to go alongside my Evo 3 SE though!

Too much choice! :D

[Tamiya_Racer]

if the evo4 is used by those drivers that is

[chris skidmore]

hi , any1 got the evo 4 yet?, sum said its just been released and mine is on order at the mo

also can u fit the evo 3 carbon fibre bumper on the evo 4 coz i dont like the plastic on the top?

[Genem]

It was officially released July 14 in Japan, so it'll take a while to spread around the world.

[chris skidmore]

finally i got my tamiya tb evoultion 4 and it looks great :D , spent all day fixing it up and adjusting it for club night on saturday, is there any upgrades that u can put on the car ? part from getting the frount bumper carbon fibre

[chris skidmore]

the car is very impressive on the track , and its basically the standard kit set up, all i didnt use is the kit shock oil coz its to soft, i used schumacher 60 in frount, schumacher 30 in back with yellow springs back and frount,

-- indoor use : double purple's frount and 35's (bit harder then green) on back and it sticks to the track like glue lol --

its better then the tamiya tb evoultion 3 for speed, acelaration and handeling

[B_Final_Bob]

Gotta say the Evo 4's look the dogs danglies!

There's about 4 or 5 them at my local club and they go pretty good. One of them is half a second down on the 27t A final pace using a mabuchi 540... that is very quick.

Just waiting for them to put stock motors in so I can compare them to my Evo 3 SE so I can see if they are quicker... :D

Liam

[chris skidmore]

i didnt try it in 27t stock because i had to get my car set up and i dont want to brake my evo 4 just yet :o , cause i dont have any spares such as the frount knukles and plus im gonna fix my ball diff and put that in instead of the one way when i do try it in stock

liam.. i thought u were only keeping the evo3 for outdoor ?

[B_Final_Bob]

Yeah but I thought since i'm only doing one outdoor meeting this year (Stafford national next week) I might aswell race indoors instead.

It's club championship time now anyway, last time I raced was the first round apparently. I managed to get 2nd in the A, so it's worth doing the rest of the rounds if I can.

[John Davie]

Ok so how are people finding the EVO IV compared to the EVO III ??

[Grindog]

What do people think of the evo IV? Is it better than a 415?. I sold my xray hoping for the TC4 but i have gone off that idea now. Looking at either a Tamiya or a MI2.

[gatesy]

Get the Tamiya mate!

Mi2 is rubbish, it flexes, it tweaks, you need tamiya shocks to make it half decent. A total waste of time!

At £250 the carbon mi2 seems like a good option, but once youve bought Tamiya shocks, Associated springs and loads of other hop ups to make it competitive then your into costs that soar past any Tamiya price.

[Genem]

Hey, go easy on the Mi2. The Mi2 and EvoIV are both very quick cars. I'm not really sure which one is faster because I have been running both nearly the same times. I like the quicker acceleration of the EvoIV, but that doesn't mean it will win, it just means it has different characteristics. Likewise, some of the Tamiya team is using the EvoIV (Steen Graverson), and some are staying with the TRF415 (Marc Rheinhard).
It is a matter of taste and preference.

[steven252]

i am currently looking for a new car and i quite like the look of the evo iv, i would just like to know what parts avaliblity are like for this car in the uk?

thanks
steven

[Stew Noble]

non existent

[John Davie]

Same as it is for the 415 or any other top of the range Tamiya , you will soon get to know the good mail order companies in japan and america.

[B_Final_Bob]

415 parts you can get from this country!

Evo 4 parts... coming soon ;)

Soon you will have a UK source for these parts. :D :D

Will try to find out more at the weekend.

[Stew Noble]

415 parts you can get from this country!

Evo 4 parts... coming soon ;)

Soon you will have a UK source for these parts. :D :D

Will try to find out more at the weekend.

yea you can get some 415 parts but they are mainly the generic parts or from the ta04. 415 specific parts are prety much impossible to get.

a uk source aye.....intresting :cool:

[B_Final_Bob]

Yep right there.

Uk source, basically, I don't want to spread rumours as nothing at all is confirmed, but there is a good chance of a shop setting up selling TRF parts only.

When I have more info I will tell you.

[Tamiya_Racer]

well.... any more info??

are we talking UK source... distributor? Or UK Source local model shop that imports a few goods?
please dont get my hopes up about a serious tamiya racing factory in the uk. :) :rolleyes:

[B_Final_Bob]

Tamiya Racer - nothing is for definite yet as far as I know. All I was told is that he wants to start selling TRF parts, possibly as a shop. It's got nothing to do with me by the way, I just race with the guy.

Hope that doesn't get your hopes up too much. :rolleyes:

Liam

[Tamiya_Racer]

so.... whats the latest

[chris skidmore]

tamiya only make two diffrent size spur gears ( 90t and 96t) i was woundering if an hpi pro 4 spur fits on i had a look at one and i think it will but i dont want to buy one then find out that it dosnt fit on

[gatesy]

Hi,

Just wondering if anyone can help me hear.

Does anyone know the dimensions of the bearing that sits on the Input shafts to the Front and Rear diff.

Ive just broken, and noticed that Microtech sell various size bearings. So all help would be great.

Thanks

Stu

[Tamiya_Racer]

stu ,

if they are the same as the evo 3 input bearings i have a few spares u can have

[chris skidmore]

yes there the same as evo3, tb02

[gatesy]

Your a legend T!! ;)

Now hows that watch doing..... :p