corally phi question

[bignig]

hi all ,just a qeery,i have a corrally phi us spec with the 6 degree, on using my alloy hubs i used on my rdx i find im getting a lot less steering than using standerd hubs ,is this normal and do the alloy ones have to be modded in any way to get the full lock ,its like there hitting the stops almost straight away both sides and not giving me as much as the stock hubs gave me ,have any of you guys had the same probs ,cheers

[Chris Delves]

Hi Bryn

Ive never had a problem when using 6degree caster blocks and duraluminium steering knuckle! Check to make sure that the steering rack is moving freely and not fowling on anything! Also make sure your servo is centred (do this by taking the servo horn off and turning the car on then putting the servo horn back on in the straight position). That way you know the servo is at neutral and so the steering is straight then it gives you the most steering travel left and right!

I know this might be a little silly, but have you got the caster blocks on the right way around? That might cause problems! Just at thought, something to check.

Hope I've helped a little. Just pay as much attention to the little things as you do thte big things wheen building these cars! Let me know if you get it sorted.

[bignig]

hi chris,thanx for getting back ,steering is verry free and smooth and servo is centred ,and caster blocks on right way to(just checked though)lol .the only way i can explain it is that ive only got a bout 1/2" of servo movement each way before the the stops on the hubs hit the caster blocks ,so it seems like that the stop are sticking out to much and not allowing the full turn ,was wondering if i had to shave some off the hubs ,but as you say you have no probs then unsure now lol just strange that the stock hubs gave me alot more than when i added these,verry strange i tell ya lol,thanx for getting back anyways, ill scratch my head some more till i get my grinder out lol

[Chris Delves]

Strange suff I have to say! Well I hope you get it sorted! All else fails put the plastic hubs back on!

Just a couple of other bits to look for... on the servo horn, the ball stud isnt hitting the top deck or anything like that is it? Is the servo ok? Not something that has happened after you have put the hubs on! Just check the servo out n make sure it isnt busted! Apart from that Im all outta ideas as to y ur steering is playing up!

Get back to me if you solve it! Hopefully some of the other team guys will be able to help!

[bignig]

lol thanx chris ,no mate servo is not hitting top deck and is a new ko one ,strange i know just cant work it out myself ,its like soon as i steer the hubs are hitting the alloy bumpstops maybe its a machine fault on the ones i have ,(do yours stick out far)other than that im beat to lol

[Nes]

a photo might help if u can take one :)

[bignig]

gd idea lol ill get on it now ,that will show at least the clerance im getting from hub to caster ,ill have a go lol

[bignig]

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hope this helps sort my prob cheers

[Chris Delves]

Hmmmm.... have you put wheels on ur wagon and seen what the turning circle is like? It could be the way you have the transmitter set up also! I cant think of anything else that could cause this problems... my steering knuckles look the same as the ones you have on the car!

[bignig]

yes mate i run it every tuesday and suffer on tight tracks,spoke to one of the guys down my club last night and he told me i should be able to put my car about a 1/4 of the tracks width and do a full turn without hitting the hoses ,lol bob hope although i was not to far off i could do it with the stock hubs on ,just doing my head in lol,at first i thoiught is was because of the 6 degree but if you say you have no probs then i cant work it out ,saying that im losing about 4 degree with the alloy hubs on so hmmmmmmmmmm lol,maybe its just me being to fussy ,im funny like that but it just dont seem right ,as for the trans setup it dont matter at all mate as they hit both stops ,nothing i could do unless i shave the hubs will fix it i think ,

[Chris Delves]

I would fit the plastic ones on for now and go run mate! It soesnt make sence that by just putting the alloy steering hubs on it buggers up the turning circle that much! Im rebuilding my TC tonight for the national, and will have a good luck at the knuckles to see if I can see anything that could restric the steering that much! Sorry for all the probs fella, Ive never come across a problem like this with the car before! Im a little purplexed to say the least as Im sure you are too!

[bignig]

cheers chris ,yeh let me know how ya get on and what ya think cheers bryn

[Chris Delves]

Had a look at my wagon last night, and honesty cannot see what it is that could be reducing your lock! Im confused to say the least... sorry I cant help any further. If I think of a solution to the problem I will let you know for sure!

[Chris Delves]

Where abouts do you race? If you see me at the nationals... or club meets just come say hi and show me the car! Prehaps having it in front of me will help!

[Andy Sawyer]

If you are at Chesterfield this weekend or LICS next Sunday,
come and find me and i will have a look

[bignig]

hi ,if i ever get down your neck of the woods ill be sure to look you up,i race in stoke -on-trent ,just out of interest would moving the position of the steering arms to the outside give me any more steering as at the moment they are both on the inside which suppose to give me -30/-21 i think it was and im sure the other gives me -30 /-22 but unsure with the - if this is more or less lol so should i move them to the out side to see cheers

[Andy Sawyer]

its not far from Stoke to come over to Chesterfield on Sunday
or down to Derby (where I normally race) on a Friday night

moving the trac rod to the outside hole would not make any diference if your problem is the steering arm hitting the C hub.

[RugratsRUS]

hi ,if i ever get down your neck of the woods ill be sure to look you up,i race in stoke -on-trent ,just out of interest would moving the position of the steering arms to the outside give me any more steering as at the moment they are both on the inside which suppose to give me -30/-21 i think it was and im sure the other gives me -30 /-22 but unsure with the - if this is more or less lol so should i move them to the out side to see cheers

Hi Bryn,

As Andy says, both Chesterfield and LICS are only about an hour away from Stoke, there will be at least a couple of PHi's at LICS so come on over and we'll take a look!

[bignig]

cheers guys ,will pop on over when have a little time ,ive set the arm to -30/-22 just to give me a little more on the trail wheel when turning but still someting a miss i think lol ,ill have another look on tuesday how it goes on track ,cant help thinking its something to do with the 6 deg carriers though ,just dropped my spring weight on the front to 19lbs as the kit came with the hard spring set and i was running 30 lbs on front ,so may be that will give me a little more when turning fast ill have to see if i can live with it ,thanx for all your input ,and if any one has a good set up for carpet (rubbers )would be a great help although im doing verry well with my set up more is always a blessing but have trouble looking at the setup sheets what are posted as i dont have xls or what ever it is ,just pdf i have ,cheers guys