Summer Series 2007 [Archive]

Steve Cann

24-03-2007, 04:18 PM

Honest, it's no April fools... First meeting of Summer Series is fast approaching... In fact it's next Sunday (April 1st)... If you do intend to come and 'play' could I ask you make a big effort to get your entry in, on-line, via club web-site asap... Ta!

Don't forget as it's now Summer ;) :) ... Gate will open at 07:30hrs...

nismo

24-03-2007, 05:19 PM

Don't forget as it's now Summer ;) :)

Lets hope the weather is in spirit of that ! :)

leecampbell1

24-03-2007, 06:51 PM

hello steve,not wishing to be a pain but i want to use my 13.5 in the summer series do i need to book in to the normal stock or is there a brushless stock?
cheers lee.

Steve Cann

25-03-2007, 10:59 AM

hello steve,not wishing to be a pain but i want to use my 13.5 in the summer series do i need to book in to the normal stock or is there a brushless stock?
cheers lee.

Just book into 'normal' Stock Touring class... Won't be a seperate b'less class...

leecampbell1

25-03-2007, 03:16 PM

cheers steve

Steve Cann

28-03-2007, 05:41 PM

Where contractors have been using access road to enable construction of skatepark:mad: they've caused a good deal of damage to road surface:( ... So PLEASE take EXTRA care when entering and leaving site this week-end...

Remo

28-03-2007, 11:04 PM

Can I run my 23T? ;)

leecampbell1

28-03-2007, 11:32 PM

hello remo, i think you would beat me with a silver can! let alone a 23t! lol

Remo

29-03-2007, 02:29 AM

not when you put the 2 diff's the right way around!!!

Steve Cann

29-03-2007, 12:22 PM

Can I run my 23T? ;)

Skiddins

29-03-2007, 01:33 PM

What are the chances of parking on the grass looking like for this weekend?

It looks from the booking in as though it might be a bit busy for just the tarmac area (if everyone turns up)

Skiddins

Steve Cann

29-03-2007, 01:44 PM

What are the chances of parking on the grass looking like for this weekend?

That's assuming that there is no serious precipitation between now and Sunday morning...

Nathan.Parker

29-03-2007, 02:26 PM

That's assuming that there is no serious precipitation between now and Sunday morning...

Lets hope the skate park causes us no problems or we will soon be

Steve Cann

29-03-2007, 02:59 PM

Lets hope the skate park causes us no problems or we will soon be

The only problem the skate park is causing at present is that in addition to damaging the access road surface :mad: ... The contractors have not yet cleared up their mess... Nigel and I have the blisters to prove we cleared up all the 'spoil' from track area... Unlikely, I'm afraid we'll be able to clear the tarmaced pitting areas :( ...

Stuart Cann

29-03-2007, 03:58 PM

Lets hope the skate park causes us no problems or we will soon be

Parker

You just posted so you could use that smilie that you saw Mike S use.

Tart:rolleyes:

Nathan.Parker

29-03-2007, 04:21 PM

:'( :'( :'( :'(

Ok you got me

You playing sunday then stu or are at SLCC?

laters

Stuart Cann

29-03-2007, 05:26 PM

I'm afraid you'll have to wait and see on that 1. :cool:

Remo

29-03-2007, 11:00 PM

Come to SLCC let me fail your car!

Nathan.Parker

29-03-2007, 11:42 PM

Come to SLCC let me fail your car!

Any spaces then remo?

Steve Cann

30-03-2007, 01:33 PM

Come to SLCC let me fail your car!

and I won't be able to witness the event :( :D ...

Stuart Cann

30-03-2007, 02:06 PM

and I won't be able to witness the event :( :D ...

Does his officials head have the same stupid haircut?:D

Remo

31-03-2007, 12:14 AM

you cant call that a hair cut, a growth at best....

Rob_Cunliffe

31-03-2007, 11:42 AM

nismo

31-03-2007, 12:05 PM

Yes just book in on the day, there is 27t brushed which run with 13.5 brushless as the performance is similar (don't open the can of worms please).

Rob_Cunliffe

31-03-2007, 12:08 PM

great, see you all tomorrow.:) :D :cool:

I like the way the performance is described as "similar" ?!?;) :D

Skiddins

31-03-2007, 12:24 PM

Hi all,

I assume I have missed the on-line booking deadline (becasue the option isnt there in the "select meeting" box. Can i still book in on the day?

Also ive not raced for months and months - is it still 27T stock? Im reading about 13.5 brushless and 23T ????

ta

Interesting, Steve, is there a particular reason why the booking in process doesn't work at the moment, either for tomorrow or the Beginners meet?

Mike Haswell

31-03-2007, 01:11 PM

Interesting, Steve, is there a particular reason why the booking in process doesn't work at the moment, either for tomorrow or the Beginners meet?

From the On-line entry page-

All on-line entries should be submitted by the Friday before the meeting.

Would explain why it doesn't work for tomorrow.

Steve Cann

31-03-2007, 03:13 PM

Interesting, Steve, is there a particular reason why the booking in process doesn't work at the moment, either for tomorrow or the Beginners meet?

Mike's reply re this week is correct...

System is 'automatic' in that it doesn't re-open until previous event is completed... Which can be a problem when meetings are crammed in, as present... Apologies for my layman's explaination :o ...

Steve Cann

31-03-2007, 05:39 PM

Gate opens at 07:30hrs.

Due to recent damage on access road take EXTRA caution when entering/leaving the site...

Much of the grass 'pitting area' is reasonably OK for parking on... Just double check visually before you drive onto the grass just in case where you are about to go is one of the 'sticky' spots ;) ...

Lastly, I've cleared up as much as possible but there is some glass on the ground in the top pitting area... So please watch out for this when parking...

See you all in the morning...

Rob_Cunliffe

31-03-2007, 07:31 PM

After all that, my tranny dont work after being sat in a cupboard for nearly 10 months. Ill get it fixed and see you at the next meet! :)

Steve Cann

02-04-2007, 08:57 AM

Summer series is now up and running... Shame about the blustery conditions which didn't exactly help with grip by depositing the dust from adjacent 'developement' onto racing surface :(...

Quite a few were having their first proper run (competitive) using 5 cells in 'mod' which seemed to be a fairly popular step in right direction... In stock there wasn't much difference between brushed & b'less... Fair to say honours even...

All in all a good positive start to summer...

Next Summer Series in a fortnight (15th April)... Hopefully see a similiar turn out then...

Mike Haswell

02-04-2007, 02:03 PM

Looking at the times compared to last year -
Chris Grainger broke the track record from April last year by 1.4 seconds which was Kevin Brunsdens by 6/100ths from Chris (that was with 6 cells).

In 19 turn Chris Delves was .31 off his own track recond and Spencer Jones was some 4 seconds of the 27 turn track record.

Chris Delves

02-04-2007, 02:26 PM

I was quite pleased that I wasn't too far off my own track record, as yesterday was my first outting with the PHI!!! Car was ok, need more set up work, but a good first outting for the car none the less. It was a good days racing as always at the WLRC club (shame about the windy conditions). Hope that skate park doesnt cause WLRC too many problems!

Remo

02-04-2007, 03:51 PM

I still think its best to register motor type when concerning track records, like the same old argument when STCC people used ball-raced stock motors and it was a point quite rightly raised by Mr Kerswell if memory served me correct.

Stuart Cann

02-04-2007, 06:53 PM

Are we to start putting a little a little (w) next to times when it's wet? Or a (d) when it's dusty?

Whatever happens, just don't let that long haired fool near the track. :D ;)

Remo

02-04-2007, 07:02 PM

Now who's being silly....? I wasn't the one who equated the two type of "stock" motors only to find one of them is a 23T equilevant... :D

Stuart Cann you are a silly boy with silly toys...;)

Stuart Cann

02-04-2007, 07:13 PM

Stuart Cann you are a silly boy with silly toys...;)

I'll have you know all my toys are deadly serious. :eek:

Chris Kerswell

02-04-2007, 08:36 PM

Now who's being silly....? I wasn't the one who equated the two type of "stock" motors only to find one of them is a 23T equilevant... :D

Im getting bored of emails saying the thread has been updated, only to find is you blathering on about BL not being equivalent! Shhh already!

Stuart Cann

02-04-2007, 10:04 PM

Im getting bored of emails saying the thread has been updated, only to find is you blathering on about BL not being equivalent! Shhh already!

Then unsubscribe from the thread, so I can carry on having a go at Remo in peace. :p

Remo

02-04-2007, 10:40 PM

Chris, unsubscribe and you wont get bored... ;) Come one guy only having a laugh I could no longer care less, I race both. Some argue ballrace on a stock, some go on about handout transponder give them 15G disadvantage and I am ONLY moaning about 40 extra watts... cant say which is more boring to be honest...:rolleyes:

Stuart... thanks for that... next time I will be there with my 19T and kick your behind... when i get the T2 007 to behave... if that is at all possible. You mess with my hair again I'll take your glasses...:eek:

Stuart Cann

02-04-2007, 10:50 PM

Stuart... thanks for that... next time I will be there with my 19T and kick your behind... when i get the T2 007 to behave... if that is at all possible.

Shouldn't have sold the BD then. :D

You mess with my hair again I'll take your glasses...:eek:

Who said I was on about your hair? I was talking about James May!:D ;)

Remo

02-04-2007, 10:58 PM

Selling the BD.... yep my biggest regret...:'( :'( :'(

BTW what 19T to get?

CatXLS

02-04-2007, 11:53 PM

[QUOTE=Remo;265569]some go on about handout transponder give them 15G disadvantage...QUOTE]

Ahh so THATS the real reason why Im 5 laps behind!! It all makes sense now ;) :D

Remo

03-04-2007, 12:12 AM

you've hit the head on the nail....

Stuart Cann

03-04-2007, 09:03 AM

Selling the BD.... yep my biggest regret...:'( :'( :'(

BTW what 19T to get?

Checkpoint Money motor.

I know people will tell you they’re expensive cos you’ve got to run the Infinity brush, but when you consider the brushes in mine are on their 4 meeting it kind of puts that 1 out the window. :)

CatXLS

03-04-2007, 01:08 PM

Checkpoint Money motor.

I know people will tell you they’re expensive cos you’ve got to run the Infinity brush, but when you consider the brushes in mine are on their 4 meeting it kind of puts that 1 out the window. :)

Stuart you're right, the money motor rules. I just tried the Orion Element 19t turn at the last meeting...Completely lame compared to the Checkpoint. It got really hot too, even geared 1 tooth lower than I had the Checkpoint it was slower and got WAY hotter.

Steve Cann

03-04-2007, 01:39 PM

Having been attracted to view PB list on club web-site I note with interest that more than a few improved their previous best...This includes at least a couple of drivers that advised that there was ZERO grip... Which kinda proves the old adage "loose is fast" :D ...

It was only really in Stock Touring that the previous 'track record' wasn't really challenged despite Spence having to give his all... Due to close challenge from Adrian... Which kind of makes one realise what a stonkin' run that must've been by Robbie Miller to set such a low mark...

On a, slightly, more serious note whilst completing a couple of marshalling stints adjacent to the D... My eyes were really opened up to the speeds now being achieved... My concern being that even those more fleet of foot than myself could have issues dealing with say an upturned car on the faster sections without incurring some level of risk of injury... Unless some serious consideration is given, soon, to taking away some of the speed... I can us having to throw a yellow to allow safe collection of cars stranded in such a manner :( ...

Remo

03-04-2007, 02:03 PM

Steve you should join the FIA LOL....

Thats why I love/hate/love/hate the D... I think that made no sense at all... but it does separate the men from the boys from the insane...

Steve Cann

03-04-2007, 04:00 PM

Steve you should join the FIA LOL....

Providing the remuneration package was commensurate with my 'skills' :eek: ;) ...

I can just see me and Max telling Bernie to get his act together...

whoopass

03-04-2007, 04:21 PM

I am not sure Steve that you can wear your shorts working for the FIA?

Remo

03-04-2007, 04:23 PM

I actually knew a person who's turned down Bernies job offer to be his financial director... so it may not beat your current job Steve...

Steve Cann

03-04-2007, 04:27 PM

Thats why I love/hate/love/hate the D... I think that made no sense at all... but it does separate the men from the boys from the insane...

Sunday's layout was inside the Douglass D to give it it's full name :eek: ...

One of my early motorsport passions was stadium racing... Used to spend much of my time a few mins away from Aldershot track at the Aldershot stadium in Tongham just accross the A331... Both watching and participating... Anyway other things got in the way and didn't get to go so often... After about a ten year break James and I decided to go and spectate at a Brisca F1 meeting at Brafield... Boy, had the 'sport' changed :( ... After virtually every incident a yellow was thrown, for safety reasons, which, to me, is at odds with the all action ethos of stadium motorsport... The whole meeting had a feeling of being anaesthetised... So much so we haven't been back...

The point I'm, sort of, trying to make is that at some point we may be better taking some voluntary action before something unwelcome is 'forced' upon 'us' :( ...

Steve Cann

03-04-2007, 04:34 PM

I am not sure Steve that you can wear your shorts working for the FIA?

They can have young ladies strolling around displaying their 'charms' :D ... Then I can't see why I shouldn't be allowed to place my best attributes on display :eek: ... Otherwise that would be dis-crimination ;) ... Surely?

Tim Hamm

03-04-2007, 06:14 PM

I can see where your coming from steve. Try marshalling at the end of the straight at the cotswold track. Having a upturned car near the end of it and the top mod boys coming toward you at hyper speed.

Nice

Even though we all love speed and i too want to go as fast as i can, it might be a time to think with a view on saftey.

or

Give the marshals long poles so we can get the car without going on the tracks, just a thought.

Tim

CatXLS

03-04-2007, 06:51 PM

Interesting...How do the 1/8th circuit guys approch marshalling? Maybe we could employ the use of some friday 13th style face masks for marshalls on the D and turn 1 :p

Racer1

03-04-2007, 10:08 PM

I can see where your coming from steve. Try marshalling at the end of the straight at the cotswold track. Having a upturned car near the end of it and the top mod boys coming toward you at hyper speed.

What is scary at Cotswolds is having a nitro car screaming down towards the middle bit, touching the grass at the side, flipping onto it's roof and increasing speed (albeit upside down) before impacting with the wire mesh fence at the bottom of the track about three feet from the marshalling point.

The "D" sorry the "Douglas D" at West London can be very worrying for marshals but I think it is even more worrying for the drivers.

The only people who truly enjoy this part of our track are spectators who dont have to worry about the cars or themselves, unless they are really unlucky and someones car hits the "D" flat out, as has happened before.

How long before the high vis jackets will have to be worn along with hard hats and toe tectors ?:D :D :D

Remo

03-04-2007, 11:01 PM

Please lets not get on this safety band-wagon again... you are not supposed to put yourself in harms way to rescue a toy car... remember "do it only when its safe to do so" :)

Chris Kerswell

04-04-2007, 12:27 AM

Quit moaning and try marshalling a Brushless 12th Scale car when there are 9 others on the track doing sub 10 second laps!

Mark Stiles

04-04-2007, 12:45 AM

Quit moaning and try marshalling a Brushless 12th Scale car when there are 9 others on the track doing sub 10 second laps!

Heh, yer, and add to that the fact thats its a euros A final your marshalling, and theres a dead car right in the middle of the track, and you have to cross 3 lanes of track, only to get to it as the lead battle is coming round! scary!:eek:

Hope I never have to do that again! (luckily i didnt manage to wreck anyones race!)

Mike Ingram

04-04-2007, 08:34 AM

Steve

I understand your concerns regarding the safety of marshalls, being more vunerable than most, having the speed, grace and agility of a wounded hippo.

However my greater concern is the future of our sport. The four cell debate appears to have been detrimental to the numbers and I fear that any further attempts to sanitise the cars may have the same effect. Thankfully the advances in brushless technology have allowed the cars to go as fast with five cells as they did with six. Whilst 19T is more than enough for my geriatric reactions we must remember, to coin a phrase, 'The Kids Wanna Rock'.

Maybe fishing rods or brooms are the answer:)

Cheers

Mike

tubs

04-04-2007, 01:36 PM

Very good Mr Stiles, you managed to join the discussion and subtlely put in there you had to marshall the euros a final, in turn letting everyone who didn't already know that you made the b at the the euros:D

Steve Cann

04-04-2007, 04:16 PM

scaremonger... It was a thought (musing) rather than a stated opinion...

AND I'm not a scaredy cat either... I'm as irreverent as anybody when it comes to my own personal safety... In nearly forty years of 'dabbling' with cars (real) I've only ever used axle stands when a trolley jack would've got in the way of completing the job... As for safety glasses only bother when they're readily to hand despite knowing that a little voice at back of head will be advising "this is a really stupid thing to be doing"...

It might not be a matter curtailing the cars speed/performance... POSSIBLY just a matter, maybe, of reconsidering the layouts used...

HTH

Remo

04-04-2007, 04:22 PM

"this is a really stupid thing to be doing"...

Its what goes through my mind everytime I try to straight line the Duglass D section...:D

Mark Stiles

04-04-2007, 05:00 PM

Maybe fishing rods or brooms are the answer:)

Or broom handles with boxing gloves on the end?!:eek:

This was tried at a stafford 12th scale national many moons ago apparently, and led to a 10 man boxing match between the marshalls in most of the races! :D

Mark Stiles

04-04-2007, 05:01 PM

Stuart Cann

04-04-2007, 05:04 PM

Its what goes through my mind everytime I try to straight line the Duglass D section...:D

That's where you're going wrong, you're not supposed to think about the D, you're just supposed to "do it". :D

Mark Stiles

05-04-2007, 08:39 PM

That's where you're going wrong, you're not supposed to think about the D, you're just supposed to "do it". :D

Nope, you're wrong there. 'The D' takes up more mental capacity than any maths exam. Even a slight lapse in concentration usually results in pieces of car scattering themselves all over the track, as I found out at the ko last year.

I think I've sussed it this year though. I'm doing mod brushless, so with any luck I'll clear the fence completely and land in the nice soft grass!:D

'The D'; easily the most rewarding corner in electric tc racing... as long as you get it right!

Remo

05-04-2007, 10:48 PM

what motor do you faster boys favour these days... seems check point is the common choice but when I tried one last year it felt flat all the time...? I have a V2 and a Reedy Twin mag... any suggestions? If Check Point of V2, whats a good starting gearing? Spence you stay out of this one...:D

Mike Haswell

05-04-2007, 10:58 PM

Depends on the wind and the number of cells pushing it.

Remo

05-04-2007, 11:07 PM

I meant 19T... :)

Mike Haswell

05-04-2007, 11:12 PM

On the V2 some of them are sub 5.

Chris Kerswell

06-04-2007, 01:03 AM

The Douglass D.... just one of those corners that "happens" :rolleyes:

V2 gearing will indeed be Sub 5 - 4.8ish is where I would start if I had to run a V2.

Would look at getting a silver canned Peak Dynasty (the new laydown one) if i were you, they have lots of punch so you will tend to gear them a tooth higher than a C2 or a Black Dynasty - probably around 4.9 to 5.0.

Skiddins

06-04-2007, 01:05 AM

Chris Kerswell

06-04-2007, 01:09 AM

They have a lot of low end torque too, I think we used to run these at 5.0 if I remember correctly, but I always overheated them at 4 mins so gave up with them!!

Chris Weston

06-04-2007, 09:16 AM

nismo

06-04-2007, 12:47 PM

They have a lot of low end torque too, I think we used to run these at 5.0 if I remember correctly, but I always overheated them at 4 mins so gave up with them!!

Chris you told me 5.1 when I asked back at the KO. 5.0 might have been why it over heated at 4 min. Although mine did come off pretty hot at 5.1 but it felt good for the five miniutes. I did brush every two runs with it and skim.

Damian take Chris' advice though, with the peak dynasty. I would say the laydown is probably the best 19t at the moment. it made my 19t experience seem alright, i'm just glad I have a spare 9 :)

CatXLS

06-04-2007, 02:30 PM

HI guys I'm running one of the new Orion Element Laydown 19t. General thought seems to be gear it at about 6!!!! It seemed to work for me Sunday as soon as I sorted out the Quantum that went bang during the day:'(

I ran that motor at last sundays meeting too, had it geared at 5.53 and it got very hot, I wouldnt run it again without a fan (or 2!).

Chris Kerswell

06-04-2007, 02:34 PM

*nods* be careful with the new Orion motors, push them too hard and they produce smoke :eek: I am aware of a few people who have had this now...

nismo

06-04-2007, 10:45 PM

Directed more at Steve,

Any news about the rostrum ?

Nick

Steve Cann

07-04-2007, 10:36 AM

Any news about the rostrum ?

As I indicated at the AGM new employment might be restrictive on time I can set aside for club 'work'... This has proven to be the case... For instance any time I have at present is spent, along with Nigel, keeping the track area clear of debris... Wasn't quite as bad as the pitting areas but took quite a few hours of serious sweeping... Only to see much of it arrive back :mad: ... We certainly both have blisters to indicate how bad the problem is :( ...

A new rostrum may have to wait for next years committee to resolve...

nismo

07-04-2007, 11:56 AM

I see, I was just wondering as it was something mentioned a few months ago.
Anyways see ya on monday :)

Skiddins

08-04-2007, 09:39 PM

Will the burger van be in attendance tomorrow?

Skiddins

Mark Stiles

08-04-2007, 11:36 PM

I hope so; I've missed my fortnightly intake of cholesterol from the beloved burger van, having not raced at wlrc since the back end of last year.:D

Steve says REAL racers do IT outdoors, well all I can say is SENSIBLE racers do IT indoors (during the winter anyway!).

Steve Cann

11-04-2007, 10:40 PM

So please don't run out of time getting entries in, on-line, for Sundays meeting... Rounds 3 & 4 of Summer Series...

Should be announcing final details for this years KO GP...

Steve Cann

12-04-2007, 05:14 PM

in interest/entries for the Super Touring class...

Is it just the appeal of relatively maintenance free b'less motors?

nismo

12-04-2007, 06:52 PM

I dont have mine yet :( still using the brushed. Should get a brushless soon enough :D

Mark Stiles

12-04-2007, 07:00 PM

in interest/entries for the Super Touring class...

Is it just the appeal of relatively maintenance free b'less motors?

Nah, more likely to be down to the fact they can see an easy chance to beat me.:D

Chris Kerswell

13-04-2007, 10:28 AM

Nah, more likely to be down to the fact they can see an easy chance to beat me.:D

Not hard really, I could run in the class with a 19T and still beat you... :D :p

nismo

13-04-2007, 12:25 PM

Not hard really, I could run in the class with a 19T and still beat you... :D :p

:eek:

Peter 51

13-04-2007, 03:21 PM

Actually except when those kind members sweep the track for us on racedays, the only suitable cars would be rally cars.
Peter

X RAYMAN

14-04-2007, 01:14 PM

Does the gates open at 7.30am i would guess

Steve Cann

14-04-2007, 05:59 PM

Does the gates open at 7.30am i would guess

You're guessing correctly...

Brooms to be issued shortly after ;) ...

Did go this afternoon with intention of a clean up... Too many in attendance... So left it until morning... MANY hands make light work :cool: :)...

Steve Cann

16-04-2007, 09:27 AM

Brooms to be issued shortly after ;) ...

To all that assisted with clearing track of 'debris' before racing commenced...

Had a long chat with one of the parkie's and he advised that since skatepark was installed callouts to park have doubled/trebled... Also Stan advised that local residents have been complaining in droves about about noise from the stones etc striking the metalwork... In particular the armco, as we know ;) , has a nice ring to it when sharply struck by a missile... So he's hopeful the spoil from excavations will dis-appear...

Having been, over the years, none too popular with the locals it would appear they're now concerned about our future residence at Pole Hill...

Chris Kerswell

16-04-2007, 04:22 PM

Having been, over the years, none too popular with the locals it would appear they're now concerned about our future residence at Pole Hill...

I might be being dense here, but are you saying they are or are not on our side?!

Steve Cann

16-04-2007, 04:32 PM

I might be being dense here, but are you saying they are or are not on our side?!

I feel they are realising the club is more of an asset to the park than an 'evil' :eek: :D ...

Mark Stiles

16-04-2007, 04:33 PM

Not hard really, I could run in the class with a 19T and still beat you... :D :p

Say that again?!:D :p

Sounds like good news re the locals, steve. Hopefully they'll realise that a group of well mannered enthusiasts (and train spotter types like kerswell!) are better than a bunch of local yobs.:cool:

CatXLS

16-04-2007, 04:36 PM

I might be being dense here, but are you saying they are or are not on our side?!

I think hes saying the locals are on our side. Thats good cos id hope that a bunch of reasonable, considerate dudes playing with toy cars is far less annoying than unsilenced trail bikes and skate park oiks...Plus we bring out the burger van and the ice cream van!! :D

jo90

16-04-2007, 04:44 PM

Just want to say thanks to the West London team yeaterday. I paid a trip down there to do some testing and as always got a warm welcome and a great track to race on. The hideous 'bmx'er nursery' looks crap to say the least though, especially the few tonnes of ground left for sods to use as missiles and reck the track.

I hope that West London can either have the council relocate this (shouldn't be to hard given it is resined down, decent crane will shift the ramps) or can find a new location as Steve mentioned close to 'home' . I always enjoy coming to the track (even the dreaded bump that almost claims my bumpers every time I come there) and would hate to see it gone.

Steve Cann

16-04-2007, 04:44 PM

Whatever happens about a move... If indeed anything happens... It won't happen anytime soon... Club will still be at Pole Hill for the immediate foreseeable future... Hopefully the prospective site is 100% viable and club has to look no further... But a move, I suggest, is at a minimum a year away...

So in the meantime 'we' have to remain on best behaviour... Particularly when entering and leaving site...

nismo

16-04-2007, 05:38 PM

''if'' there is a move the ko will still be held there right ?

jo90

16-04-2007, 05:40 PM

Got a feeling from Steve's last post that West London will still be at Pole Hill for a while yet, on top of that it isn't an overnight job designing and laying a new track - ask Eastbourne !

One thing I will say is that anyone attending the KO this year don't leave ya tents behind ;)

Remo

16-04-2007, 05:44 PM

maybe we should allow minipins for KO conrol tyre :)

jo90

16-04-2007, 05:53 PM

Naa, how about the mini spike, would take on the mud easy ;)

reminices back to the good old days of EP 1/10th RallyX

CatXLS

16-04-2007, 07:04 PM

maybe we should allow minipins for KO conrol tyre :)

lol

Steve Cann

16-04-2007, 07:28 PM

Does anyone know where I may obtain a bing bong for the PA... Several of the announcements got 'lost' yesterday in the generator 'clatter' at the South End of the site... If I could draw attention to the more important announcements by such a device... It may help in enabling those pitting in far corner being aware, for instance, of any changes in the schedule...

Tim Hamm

16-04-2007, 07:29 PM

Naa, how about the mini spike, would take on the mud easy ;)

reminices back to the good old days of EP 1/10th RallyX

They worked well on my xxt cr g+ yesterday, just they didn't offer much grip on the new ramps.

Steve Cann

16-04-2007, 07:36 PM

maybe we should allow minipins for KO control tyre :)

Well I certainly hope it doesn't come to that... Hopefully when the skatepark is completed the site will be cleared of the debris...

Skiddins

16-04-2007, 08:25 PM

whoopass

16-04-2007, 09:07 PM

I got a beef with generators!

whats wrong with a silent 12V for charging.

Can generators be banned from all racetracks in the UK?
please

CatXLS

16-04-2007, 09:44 PM

Stuart Cann

16-04-2007, 10:56 PM

Dunno but you're welcome to use my Mr T keyring, press a button and Mr T shouts "shut up fool", similar effect!

Now the important question is, is Mr T talking to the racers, or the announcer? :D :D

CatXLS

17-04-2007, 03:50 PM

Now the important question is, is Mr T talking to the racers, or the announcer? :D :D

Haha, had the racers in mind, but now that you mention it ;) :D

PS. Steve: Just joshin chief! :p

new boy

17-04-2007, 04:33 PM

Lo Mr stiles is there any chance you can post your mod cyclone set up from the weekend for us.? cheers m8

Mark Stiles

17-04-2007, 05:10 PM

Front
spool, 2.5 pivot block, 4 deg castor, 3mm ackerman, silver roll bar, 1mm under inner camber link, camber link on inner most hole on bulkhead, wheelbase spacers all behind wishbone, shock 3rd hole out on tower, outer hole on wishbone, hpi pink spring, 3 hole 1.1mm pistons, 45wt oil, , 5.5mm droop, 5.5mm ride height, 1.5mm under wishbone pivot blocks, 1.5 deg camber, 1 deg toe out.

Rear
3 deg. toe in, copper roll bar, 0.5mm under inner camber link, camber link on inner most hole on bulkhead, wheelbase spacers all infront of wishbone, hub wheelbase spacers; 2mm front 0.75mm rear, shock 4th hole out on tower, middle hole on wishbone, hpi blue spring, 3 hole 1.1mm pistons, 45wt oil, 4.5mm droop, 5.5mm ride height, 1.5mm under wishbone pivot blocks, 1.5deg camber

Other
Fixed centre pulley, take off cs27 pre built tyres (lasted all day!), moorespeed mazda shell, orion 3.5 b'less motor geared at 7.74, nosram istc speedo (2,2,2,2 settings), orion 5-cell packs charged at 5A, 3mV/cell delta.

The car still lacks a little off power turn-in, but i think thats partly due to my driving atm. The shock tower shock positions quoted are what i ran during finals. During qualifying they were 1 hole further in all round (standing them up appeared to make the car more responsive). I have the standard shock towers btw; not the WC ones with intermediate holes.

If theres anything I've missed let me know.:cool:

Steve Cann

17-04-2007, 06:20 PM

If theres anything I've missed let me know.:cool:

Your personal calorie intake for the day...

AND Spence what's happened to your 'pony' car? :eek: :p

Chris Kerswell

17-04-2007, 06:28 PM

I got a beef with generators!

whats wrong with a silent 12V for charging.

Can generators be banned from all racetracks in the UK?
please

nononononononono NO!

I don't have enough space to take 4 110Ah 12Vs to nationals, 2 for Sat 2 for Sun.

When you run tyre warmers, motor coolers, chargers, soldering irons amongst other incidental things you really do need that amount of capacity these days!

Steve Cann

17-04-2007, 06:40 PM

other incidental things you really need

Like a fridge and a large 'personal' fan to keep oneself cool...

Mark Stiles

17-04-2007, 07:34 PM

Your personal calorie intake for the day...

I would have posted that, but couldnt fit all the 0's after the 1 on a single post.:o

Racer1

17-04-2007, 09:20 PM

Steve

My daughter suggests one of the air powered horns, just stick it out the window and let it go that will make people take notice.;)

nismo

17-04-2007, 11:28 PM

I would have posted that, but couldnt fit all the 0's after the 1 on a single post.:o

standard index form mark ;)

nononononononono NO!

I don't have enough space to take 4 110Ah 12Vs to nationals, 2 for Sat 2 for Sun.

When you run tyre warmers, motor coolers, chargers, soldering irons amongst other incidental things you really do need that amount of capacity these days!

That is true, two chargers, warmers, soldering irons, fans.....takes out more than enough power.

Skiddins

18-04-2007, 12:21 AM

jo90

18-04-2007, 08:49 AM

So you can use one to power a motor dyno/discharge while the other charges. I have found I struggle sometimes to rebuild a motor and get cells charged even at larger events unless I time it well !

I understand the plight of those with Gennies, but it can be a pain if you are down wind of their exhaust gas !

brownpants

18-04-2007, 11:18 AM

I was just looking at the championship table and noticed the different formulas.
Could anyone explain to me why and how these are worked out and what they mean?

Cheers

Darren

pinkbucket

18-04-2007, 05:48 PM

I was just looking at the championship table and noticed the different formulas.
Could anyone explain to me why and how these are worked out and what they mean?

Cheers

Darren

End of championship trophies are awarded per formula. Drivers are grouped by formula so that they compete for trophies against other drivers with similar abilities. Formulas are roughly worked out as follows based on your driver grading -

For 27T Stock
Gradings 0-29 = F3
Gradings 30-69 = F2
Gradings 70-99 = F1

For 19T Super-Stock & Modified
Gradings 0-69 = F2
Gradings 70-99 = F1

Drivers are prompted/relegated between formulas at the end of the championship.

Chris Kerswell

18-04-2007, 06:32 PM

Four 110Ah batteries, what the hell are you guys powering :eek:

I have one 110Ah and new that would last a weekend, it's beginning to struggle a little but it is 18 months old and will still power everything you mention (except a soldering iron as I use a gas one)

Skiddins

P.S. Why do people use two chargers?

I have a 14A power supply that cannot quite cope when I have everything on at once. If I could I would be drawing at least 15A.

At 15A, for 7am to 5pm (10 hours) you need a 150Ah battery. At a national you will need one for Sat and one for Sun as you can't get enough charge into it overnight. Realistically, looking at the numbers, you might be able to get away with 3 110Ah 12Vs.....

Steve - when you wish to quote something you tend to leave it as originally written... :p

brownpants

18-04-2007, 07:39 PM

End of championship trophies are awarded per formula. Drivers are grouped by formula so that they compete for trophies against other drivers with similar abilities. Formulas are roughly worked out as follows based on your driver grading -

For 27T Stock
Gradings 0-29 = F3
Gradings 30-69 = F2
Gradings 70-99 = F1

For 19T Super-Stock & Modified
Gradings 0-69 = F2
Gradings 70-99 = F1

Drivers are prompted/relegated between formulas at the end of the championship.

Thanks Graham

new boy

20-04-2007, 01:36 PM

Lo Mark

Thanks m8, and steve its me thumbs that are pony!!!!!!!!!!!! won't happen again.PLEASE

Chaz Godwin

25-04-2007, 08:37 PM

Skiddins

25-04-2007, 09:07 PM

Thinking of coming down 1 or 2 weeks before the BRCA 19t nat and i was just wondering as i haven't been to a WL club meeting before, do you pay at booking in or do you pay online :confused:

Cheers, Chaz

Book in online then pay on the day :)

Just take the 'dip' in the entrance road very slowly, you'll see what I mean.

bozla

26-04-2007, 12:00 PM

Mike Haswell

26-04-2007, 01:34 PM

26.995 = Brown
27.045 = Red
27.095 = Orange
27.145 = Yellow
27.195 = Green
27.255 = Blue

Skiddins

26-04-2007, 01:35 PM

I have a 27Mhz fm radio. What colours are what bands?　(I only have numbers on mine). Also, as I understand theres only a few power sockets, but I have a 20 amp power supply that'll run probably 3 or 4 chargers, would it be ok to bring that if it would help?

You might want to try Google'ing about the colours.

Only a few people ever get to use any 240V, as a rule WLRC say they don't have mains so people have to bring 12V batteries. You might want to PM Steve Cann, as he will be able to give more information.

bozla

26-04-2007, 03:27 PM

Should've tried that earlier! (http://www.ukrcc.org/27mhz.html) But one of my 3 bands is green/blue (27.225)

Skiddins

26-04-2007, 05:40 PM

Should've tried that earlier! (http://www.ukrcc.org/27mhz.html) But one of my 3 bands is green/blue (27.225)

If it's not on the booking in form, just leave it at two frequencies, should be enough as very few people use 27MHz at WLRC anyway. Out of the current 38 entries, only 4 are on 27MHz!

Skiddins

Tim Hamm

26-04-2007, 05:54 PM

Should've tried that earlier! (http://www.ukrcc.org/27mhz.html) But one of my 3 bands is green/blue (27.225)

The Green / Blue Xtals is reserved for test purposes only

CatXLS

26-04-2007, 07:12 PM

Talking of 27 mhz, I saw at the opening round Mr Grainger was using it....Does anyone know his thinking there?

Mike Haswell

26-04-2007, 07:28 PM

So does Craig Drescher.
Less congested these days but 27 pretty much universally used and allowed for r/c and on the same frequencies.

40 is not allowed in the US and in Japan they only run frequencies that end in 0. Even within Europe there are variations on what is allowed for R/c car use.

Chris Kerswell

26-04-2007, 07:28 PM

Talking of 27 mhz, I saw at the opening round Mr Grainger was using it....Does anyone know his thinking there?

Less people using it means less chance of someone switching on and also more chance of getting your peg during practice!

bozla

27-04-2007, 01:14 AM

Less people using it means less chance of someone switching on and also more chance of getting your peg during practice!

Yeah, i think CB radio was the main cause of interference, and that (i think) is almost dead in this country now. It seems that legalizing it killed it.