MIP and TIR Cyclone driveshafts.

[JL.]

I know there' been a few problems with the durability of Cyclone driveshafts in the past.

I'm getting a cyclone ready for use outdoor use (mod with spool). Has anyone had any experience yet with the MIP version (as available on the Worlds Edition)?

Do the TIR dogbones fit on the MIP axles and vice-versa?

Thanks in advance,
Jason

[TKohler]

i dont see any reason they shouldnt, they are the same design of driveshaft... dont know anyone thats tried!

[FTR]

If I remember rightly, they don't fit. The ball on the end of the TiR driveshafts are smaller than the MIPs. Therefore, the hole is smaller on the TiR Dogbone than the MIP.

Paul

[JL.]

Ok Cheers Paul,

I'll stick with one or the other.

... judging by the lack of response as to how people are gettign along with the MIP worlds drivesahfts I can only assume they're too new for people to comment on. Thanks again

[Warren]

i have a cyclone coming late this month so if no more information has been put on ill do some testing.

[Phil C]

The new MIP driveshafts are great, very little wear, even with a spool in modified. I wudnt bother trying to use any other after-market driveshafts as they don't even compare. They also reduce chatter a considerable ammount.

The HB team run the MIP worlds shafts up front, and either the same rear or the Hara purple universals. Some believe the Hara shafts on the rear increase rear traction.

Hope this helps,

Phil.

[c0sie]

The new MIP driveshafts are great, very little wear, even with a spool in modified. I wudnt bother trying to use any other after-market driveshafts as they don't even compare. They also reduce chatter a considerable ammount.

The HB team run the MIP worlds shafts up front, and either the same rear or the Hara purple universals. Some believe the Hara shafts on the rear increase rear traction.

Hope this helps,

Phil.

Phil,

Any idea how that works?

Thanks

[Mark Stiles]

Phil,

Any idea how that works?

Thanks

They're purple, so obviosly they're better.:rolleyes:

If you or I noticed any difference at all I'd be very surprised.

[vroomtshh]

Personally, I run Standard driveshafts at the back of my Moorspeed, and my original black Cyclone, purely because I had a load of spares and I didnt want to waste them. I have HD steel ones in my back car running a Moorespeed spool, with no problems at all, and I have the MIPs in the front of the Moorespeed car with no wear problems there either.

I dont run mod though, but I am prone to crashing a fair bit

[JL.]

Guys I've just answered my own original question. MIP and TiR dogbones and axles are NOT compatible. The pins on the TiRs are 1.5mm in diameter, the MIPs are 2mm.

Hope this helps someone else.

[nismo]

Phil,

Any idea how that works?

Thanks


I would be thinking prehaps in terms of rotating mass...because aluminium is lighter than titanium.

(Mr= Atomic mass)
Al Mr = 27, Ti Mr = 48, and then steel would be a mix of carbon and iron probably only around 0.25% carbon. Ti being a transition metal has the property of being very strong, hence why its prefered over Al.

a lighter rotating mass would spool up and decrease in speed quicker.

[James_Stewart]

I would be thinking prehaps in terms of rotating mass...because aluminium is lighter than titanium.

(Mr= Atomic mass)
Al Mr = 27, Ti Mr = 48, and then steel would be a mix of carbon and iron probably only around 0.25% carbon. Ti being a transition metal has the property of being very strong, hence why its prefered over Al.

a lighter rotating mass would spool up and decrease in speed quicker.

I think it's probably going to have more to do with the 'Jacking' of the driveshafts - the MIP CVDs effectively have a longer bone length than the HB CVJs.