sandy

[stot]

:rolleyes: just to let you lot know.. there are increasing numbers of people getting truggys at sandy.. most yet to run.. but keep an eye..you could come along.. we even have some on the way for the next badlands chalange i beleive.. the futures bright.. and got four stonking great wheels.. bring it on:D

[stevie/shirtman]

ive told u all along stoty truggies r the future:) :) :) ....the only question is ....21 or 28

[Lewis Millman]

21s For Girls and low grip tracks
28s for Men and wet muddy tracks when your car comes off 2lb heavier :eek:

[savagemachine]

21s For Girls and low grip tracks
28s for Men and wet muddy tracks when your car comes off 2lb heavier :eek:


:eek: Lewis so when i get my truggie in February does this mean i have to go for a 21 engine i think you maybe right on this one just until i get feel of them the 28 me thinks:D

Savagemachine

[Andy Taylor]

:eek: Lewis so when i get my truggie in February does this mean i have to go for a 21 engine i think you maybe right on this one just until i get feel of them the 28 me thinks:D

Savagemachine

Allowing .28 engines is in my opinion the wrong move. Unless someone can persuade me otherwise. Everyone has a .21 engine for a buggy and they can buy a truggy rolling chassis drop it in and still be competitive at meetings. Allowing things like .28 and Blown tanks just removes the fun factor and only serves to make drivers THINK they need a .28 to be competitive.

[simon f]

Hi there this is my first post on here so hello peeps very informative forum you have here.

I have had a Truggy for about 2 years now and am very pleased to see them really tacking off as serious race machines.

As for engine size i have tried both and don't really think a 28 gives you any advantage you get a slightly better bottom end but a loss of top end and very poor fuel economy.

I ran a GO 21 in my Hong Nor CRT last Sunday at Clanfield on a moist sometimes wet muddy track but still managed to TQ against a fair few 28/30 size motors.

Just my thoughts

Cheers
Simon.

[Neil McRae]

Andy,
Don't agree with you on that. When I raced at frankley my vspec struggled with the two long straights. Gearing it to 14t helped but when I put the Axial 32 in and it made a big difference.

Neil.

[Andy Taylor]

Andy,
Don't agree with you on that. When I raced at frankley my vspec struggled with the two long straights. Gearing it to 14t helped but when I put the Axial 32 in and it made a big difference.

Neil.

So you are saying a .28 is an advantage then Neil??

Either way its a problem that needs to be well thought out!

Getting existing buggy drivers to buy a rolling chassis is one thing but getting them to buy more engines might be less appealing!

Certainly the .28's had no advantage at ledbury as Lee Tqed first day with a .21 Standard Nosram engine. Where we strugged was with fuel stops as ours was bog standard and had not been blown like some of the other competitors. LOL.

I know Brennan Ralls used a .28 in the only qualifying round he managed (he was only there on the second day) at the Nova rossi GP (truggies) at EMORC Southend. He then switched to a .21 for the final and went on to win it!

My point is in the early stages you will get some extra drivers who have all the kit bar a truggie to have a dabble but if they find they HAVE to buy a bigger engine to compete they might have second thoughts.

I am sure it will be taken into account....its good to talk though :)

[stot]

:D its very good to talk.. mine will get one of my .21 stuck in it..most i have asked said there was so little in it... it does need some loose rules throwing together though.. limit them to .28 and a 150 mm tank or something along those lines to even it all up.. i am looking forward to a refreshing alternative to rx, which will still be my main stay... i think but who can tell.. my racing is judged on the fun i have and the good people that i race against.. not my results..some are takeing rally x to serious these days with they money they throw at them.. even seen people use a engine a meet then sell it on.. and new tyres for each qualifying heat let alone the final.. gets to dear for us poor people.. thats why i stopped electric some years ago.. could not keep up with the new cells and moters every month.. truggies will be great i am sure..club type racing at its best.. most of us do this for fun..:D

[Neil McRae]

I don't think any engine has an advantage over another and what advantage I got from the 32 I ran was lost as I had to pit more.

Personally I run the vspec as much as I can as I like how it runs but the 21 struggle with the truggys. I agree on fuel tank and we have limited that tio 150ml but with the engine its a balance, with the 21 you get fuel economy, with the bigger engines you get a slight speed advantage on bigger tracks but they basically balance out. I agree on the money side but I think a bigger issues on money is tyres over engines, looking at the 12 sets I'm lugging around with me! Alot of tuned 28's are about to hit the market so maybe something to keep an eye on but I'm not in favour of a huge amount of red tape.

Cheers,
Neil.

[BryB]

:rolleyes: just to let you lot know.. there are increasing numbers of people getting truggys at sandy.. most yet to run.. but keep an eye..you could come along.. we even have some on the way for the next badlands chalange i beleive.. the futures bright.. and got four stonking great wheels.. bring it on:D

truggy"s at sandy, what a combination.Whens the next meeting??

[stot]

:D next meeting on the 17th dec.. but is badlands challange but garry from emorc has said he is bringing some truggys up to this..there are badlands available for truggy.. but it is under discussion as to wether they have to be used..;)

[BryB]

damn,can"t make that one ,will be up after chrimbo though

[stot]

:D sound.. there will be a few club m,embers got theirs by then... bet you can guess which one most are going for.. being sandy....on sun karl jackson took his new kyosho truggy round there in a practice slot.. with steve johnson with his losi buggy .. it was fantastic to watch.. bring it on.. i will run mine after the badlands has finished..:D

[jamiebooth]

Just so you all know, the brca truggy class is quite open and free from loads of restrictions and rules. We want to have fun and encourage people to come regaless of there equipment.
In testing a good 28-30 engine is faster in a straight line but needs more fuel stops, also i found that it makes diffs set up very hard as the grunt just overpowers the diffs.
After trying both i think that a 21 most of the time is better. All the fast guys in the US run 21's....

[Neil McRae]

hmm i get back from vegas on Saturday morning so I might pop up on the 17th too for last race of the year, its also my birthday :D

Neil.

[mr4man]

yeah man badlands on the truggys, there excellent tyres

[gray.g]

yeah man badlands on the truggys, there excellent tyres

What type of surface conditions are the badland truggy tyres good for ?

[stot]

:rolleyes: well they work on the dirt for rally x much better than we thought they would.. and have run them on grass which suprised me how well they went on there:D

[druid16v]

Ill be there on the 17th.

has it been confirmed that we dont have to run badlands on the truggys?

I cant afford another set. truggy tires are bucks expensive damn it!!!

[stot]

:rolleyes: confirmed any tires.. will be in own heat seperate from the badlands chalange ..more the merrier:D