Tyres - part 2

[jo90]

Did anyone else find their tyres coming unglued as the day went on ?

I had to reglue the outer edge (inner seemed ok). Not sure if it was just the edge, or the actual bead istting into the rim that came loose.

[Rob_Cunliffe]

I ran 2 'sets' (4) one on the sat that lasted 3 runs before requiring glueing and on the sunday they lasted 2 1/2 runs.

They seem to be poorly glued together compared with other pre-builts.

[col7104]

I think it has alot to do with the kerbs and how much you're hopping them. Mine came unglued during the day, but i'm pretty sure it's because I was kerbing them alot and what not. At a more car friendly track (lets face it Southend isn't a friendly track - very nice to drive when your doing it right though), you shouldn't see the tyre damage encountered.

[screamer]

Tyre warmers were much in use yesterday, together with many other ingenious methods of warming up tyres ( and drivers) were the tyre warmers melting the tyre adhesive?

[jo90]

I doubt tyre warmers would have this effect, on top of that I never used tyre warmers or additive, so they came apart of natural accord.

Im not sure Col about the kerb hoping. I did 6 test runs the week before with a set of CS27 tyres that I glued and none of them have come apart.

[col7104]

OK, but in pretty much all of last years round my SSBs stayed intact. It was only the belting overlap that let them down, and some aggressive kerbing by my part. I can only remember glueing last years wheels once, and that was probably at Southend!

I too didn't use warmers, big necessity though, need to invest in a set. Who wants to bet next round I'll come all prepared and it'll be hot and sunny :D

[MikeS]

I sorry to all those that experienced this, just as I did. I am aware of the issue and will take this up with Corally who were contracted to do the gluing up, just as they have always done for us in the past a good job it has always been. Obviously something may need looking at to get to the bottom of it and prevent it in the future.
PS: I personally mounted and glued the last 300prs of 2005 and I was actually congratulated on how well they were done, however I can't see myself gluing them all up for 2006!!!!

[screamer]

Hi Colin, i think an investment for a set of tyre warmers is essential for the next round at Milton Keynes, the odds are stacked against having a hot and sunny day, why,
its Easter Sunday, its in the land of concrete cows and roudabouts every hundred yards, and its a nightmare getting there up the M1 with all the holiday traffic and caravans to deal with ?

[BandMBoy]

Tyre warmers were much in use yesterday, together with many other ingenious methods of warming up tyres ( and drivers) were the tyre warmers melting the tyre adhesive?


i found the 'sunniest' place inside our focus wrapped up tin foil and placed the tyres on it then put the heating on full. worked a treat

[jo90]

Jonathan - but how much petrol did you use ;) hehe

It does look like a necessary part of your pit box will be tyre warmers, I think 100% of the A final drivers where using them

[BandMBoy]

Jonathan - but how much petrol did you use ;) hehe

It does look like a necessary part of your pit box will be tyre warmers, I think 100% of the A final drivers where using them

if your talking about the focus the battery is now dead, if your talking about the tc4, thats not funny, armature looks a cool colour now though

[rich white]

When the tyres are NEW peel back the sidewall to reveal any unglued parts or poorly glued areas.Use some motor spray to clean the unglued parts. Probably hadn't been done at the factory. Then re-glue um using high quality glue (proline, corally, losi, trackside solutions) Tyre warmers shouldn't be a factor!! hope this helps

[Drifter]

It's a Southend thing! You can't expect those poor little round things to hold together when we're busy kicking the living proverbial out of them against the concrete kerbs / walls / marshals shins :'( We're always running out of superglue!!

[CCFM]

When the tyres are NEW peel back the sidewall to reveal any unglued parts or poorly glued areas.Use some motor spray to clean the unglued parts. Probably hadn't been done at the factory. Then re-glue um using high quality glue (proline, corally, losi, trackside solutions) Tyre warmers shouldn't be a factor!! hope this helps

Hi Guy's Cool-Can-Fan-Man here also Mr Trakside Solutions (one of the same body, and not a pretty one to boot lol)
With regards to the tyres coming off the rims, I spoke with Mike S, in legth on this and we both think that the wheels were not bathed to remove the releasent agent which was still on them from there moulds. He is a man of his word, and will be in touch with the powers to be.
I have seen many people use motor cleaner to 'clean the wheels of releasent agent' but in fact the properties within motor cleaners have a repelent for Cyano, so this should not be used really, in fact the best way is to sand the edges with about 180 grit sand paper and wipe off excess dust with a damp cloth, as it is moisture that cures the Cyano, thats why you might see some people wet there finger and wipe it around the wall of the tyre, as when you apply the cyano it cures quicker but is not nesesarly better, as it can crystalize the glue and therefore lose adhesion between the surfaces you are trying to bond together.....TROUBLE IS WE CANT GLUE UP OUR TYRES ANY MORE AS MOST OF THEM ARE PR-GLUED :mad: ....there endeth today's lesson my children lol
Cheers Malc TCCFM :cool:

[spmcc]

There writes a man who knows what he is on about. Read and inwardly digest.

[CCFM]

There writes a man who knows what he is on about. Read and inwardly digest.

only if you want to stick your teeth together lol
Malc

[rich white]

That was my method used at the weekend for the pre mounted tyres. I do usually sand paper the rims however in our control tyre state we cant do this. The reason i used motor spray(much more) was where the parts of the tyres the guys at corally missed with the glue, may of had dirt etc from the mouldings. So this was used to clean um. obviously you let it completely dry off. I was under the impression most motor sprays dry leaving no residue so its wierd that it affects the bonding process. Anyway that was wat i did at the weekend and had zero tyres come off the rims!!!!Many around me complained all day of this happening. :( Maybe im not going fast enough hey!! :confused:

[sjcuth]

I have found a solution that removes all releasing agent from tyres and rims, it's called Film Kleen, we use it at work to remove all sorts of stains from asotaine sheets. it's sprit based and I use a cotton bud round the rim of the tyre and rim let it dry (all of about 3 secs) then glue away. works very well, shame it's not availabe to the public.