Cleveland [Archive]

mark barord

28-11-2003, 05:36 PM

Has anyone found a site that is covering Cleveland? I want to know how David S is getting on with his new stuff!

acurry

28-11-2003, 05:49 PM

Hi Mark found this site last night also has link to josh's new car

cheers
Alan
http://www.usindoorchamps.com/

MattW

28-11-2003, 05:51 PM

Yeah there are a couple that i saw last night, but can't remember what they are!! Although i know there is some coverage on the RC Tech site as one of the main guys from that site there.

I'll have a look, but am a little wary of linking to them!!

Saw some pics of the CEFX car, front end looks odd!! 8) a little corally like.

griff

28-11-2003, 05:53 PM

Hi Mark,

There is a good site - www.nashrcracer.com

Also there is a thread on - rctech

Andy

Andy Moore

28-11-2003, 07:17 PM

Hi all

I spoke to Oscar last night after the 1st round of practice.

After 1st practice

TC: Atsushi,dave,barry b,paul L,Jilles G

1/12:dave,barry b,mike blackstock

Glenn Atterton

28-11-2003, 08:15 PM

Some pics on this link,

CEFX 1/12 car (http://www.nashrcracer.com/cleveland2003/firstshots/firstshots29.htm)

Dave Treacy

28-11-2003, 09:13 PM

Glenn, are you aware there are photos of the MI2 on that link of yours?

griff

28-11-2003, 09:46 PM

First round results in-

12th mod

1 st Mike Blackstock, Spash 4th and Simo 10th.

Report said that round took 9 hours to complete :o, so will have to wait untill tomorrow morning for round two :)

Glenn Atterton

28-11-2003, 10:37 PM

Glenn, are you aware there are photos of the MI2 on that link of yours?

No. But with Tamiya shocks fitted !!!

griff

29-11-2003, 08:13 AM

Second round in-

1st Blackstock
2nd Spash
3rd Baker
4th Kinwald
5th Orr
6th Dumas
7th Tosolini
8th Hara
9th Doseck
10th Easton

Simo has dropped out of top 10, and notice still no Josh Cyrul :o

KRob

29-11-2003, 09:40 AM

And no Andy Griffiths??

MattW

29-11-2003, 10:56 AM

Second round in-

Simo has dropped out of top 10, and notice still no Josh Cyrul :o

Simo has dropped to 14th (8th in TC), Sakke 16th and Josh is 27th :o

griff

29-11-2003, 03:44 PM

Hi Keith,

Unfortunatly no holiday left, and the possibility of no job after Christmas >:(

Hopefully if I can sort things out, then I would love to go next year :)

John Davie

29-11-2003, 05:26 PM

It's great news that Dave S is in 2nd just 0.06 off first place, Josh C is down in 27th place after 2 rounds so far.

Oliver

29-11-2003, 07:16 PM

http://www.rctech.net/events/cleveland2003/index.shtml

Some nice pics of the CEFX too.....

Shame theres no live video streaming...........

OLI

Glenn Atterton

30-11-2003, 09:05 AM

eor 4

Modified 1/12th Scale Top Ten

1. John Orr 44/8:05.33
2. David Spashett 44/8:06.10
3. Barry Baker 44/8:06.31
4. Chris Doseck 44/8:07.06
5. Mike Blackstock 44/8:07.93
6. Chris Tosolini 44/8:10.05
7. Brian Kinwald 43/8:00.72
8. Mike Dumas 43/8:01.54
9. Michael Lufaso 43/8:01.71
10. Ryan Cavalieri 43/8:02.39

Modified Touring Top Ten

1. Mike Blackstock 28/5:02.74
2. Barry Baker 28/5:06.64
3. Atsushi Hara 28/5:07.03
4. Brian Kinwald 28/5:07.55
5. Paul Lemieux 28/5:07.80
6. Mike Dumas 28/5:08.95
7. David Spashett 28/5:09.61
8. Chris Tosolini 28/5:10.15
9. Todd Hodge 28/5:10.34
10. Ryan Cavalieri 28/5:10.49

PUASHP

30-11-2003, 08:15 PM

Great to see Dave doing so well with the new car, interesting design.

From the photos I have seen it is a t bar rear end with straw dampers a la Trinity but with an adjustable rear pivot call location and holes in the chassis to adjust the pivot ball screws to remove play. Cell position is also adjustable.

The front end seems to be the key part with a wishbone front end, with adjustable upper link come roll bar made from GRP.

I can see this car doing really well if it is released over here in the UK

Great for the sport

Paul

John Davie

30-11-2003, 08:58 PM

The car does look a very neat bit of kit, would be interesting to see one in action.

MattW

30-11-2003, 11:37 PM

John Orr has won 0.04sec from Dave S.

John Davie

01-12-2003, 12:09 AM

Not a bad result first time out with a new car, well done Dave S.

Dave Treacy

01-12-2003, 10:19 AM

Yes, congrats on the debut, Dave.

I suppose the burning question is "would Dave have won running his Trinity?" :o

John Davie

01-12-2003, 05:20 PM

Seems the 12th battle has not ended yet as rumour has it, team CEFX has put a protest in saying Dave's car got to the line first. Hope someone had setup a video camera on the finish line to help settle this one

Mark Stiles

01-12-2003, 05:34 PM

In the results further up this page, it says that John Orr won my 0.73 seconds. Surely he was several feet ahead?! ???

Mark Stiles

01-12-2003, 05:35 PM

Ah I see, those are the qualifying times aren't they! ::) :-X

Dave Treacy

02-12-2003, 10:10 AM

Apparantly there is video footage which shows Dave crossing the line first. There is a photo on the rc-tech forum of the finish as well, which shows Dave about 2 inches ahead.

marcoski

02-12-2003, 11:21 AM

I bet they were using AMB-RC timing - as I have stated before, it cannot cope if two cars cross the line at nearly the same time, because of the arbitration that takes place between the transponders and the decoder. If the slightly later arriving car's transponder happens to get its code in first, it will be declared as having got there first, when clearly it did not...

rc_jammer

02-12-2003, 11:43 AM

Maybe John Orr's transponder was mounted further forward than Dave's so as they crossed the line, Dave's car may have been 2 inches in front but maybe John's transponder was 2.5 inches further forward ;D

marcoski

02-12-2003, 01:00 PM

LOL good point.

Oliver

02-12-2003, 03:20 PM

Acctually you are wrong there Marcus.

They were using the Original AMB system - no PTs, no rc tracnsponders just the original Black Boxes. Also the timing was only to 1/100ths of a second - and the RC system (at that level) is fine - its only when you get to the 1/1000ths that theres a problem.

In my opinion - if a photograph or video of the race shows one car ahead of the other - then that car wins. Regardless of what the AMB system (or whichever they are using) says.

Maybe it was that their PC got a bit tired after running 4 days of basically continuous racing!!!!

Dave Treacy

02-12-2003, 04:14 PM

I have viewed the video of the last 3-4 seconds of the race. Dave has the inside line coming out of the final corner and outdrove John to the line.

Seems the timing equipment needs checking.

Craig

02-12-2003, 04:17 PM

Where is this video found?

Dave Treacy

02-12-2003, 04:21 PM

http://bibo.chen-garden.com/12modend.avi

http://bibo.chen-garden.com/12modendslow.avi

2 version, 1 normal speed, one slo-mo

John Davie

02-12-2003, 06:00 PM

Video not the best but it does look if Dave did get the better run out of the last corner, just a shame you can not clearly see where the timming loop is positioned.

John Davie

03-12-2003, 04:07 AM

Found this posted on another forum posted by Josh cyrul himself:

Just so everyone knows - Neither Spashett or myself put in a protest about the 1/12 mod finish. I will admit that I did write one up and I was ready to submit it but after thinking things through I decided to congratulate John Orr on a great drive and let things be. I am very proud of what was done in a short time and I am looking forward to the future - Next time I hope we are fast enough so there won't need to be a camera on the line...lol...