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stevieteee
01-10-2003, 06:52 PM
Hello All,

Anyone got any opinos on the above? Is it worthwhile? Nice piece of kit....etc etc!

you know the drill ;)
Cheers
Steve

TMOTORS
24-10-2003, 04:30 AM
I'm wondering the same thing, has anyone bought the kit and used some of the other upgrades link the aluminum hub carriers etc.

The Rayspeed kit looks great but what are the main benefits?

Thanks
W

Scotty
24-10-2003, 08:18 AM
I have the Rayspeed full conversion kit, however I have been lazy and as yet I have not converted my SD. I will say that the parts are really well made and look to solve some of the minor design problems with the SD.

I thought this had been discussed before but I can't seem to find the thread so here are the apparent benefits. The servo positioning is changed to improve steering and reduce slop, The motor mount has been redesigned and has only 2 screws holding it to eliminate tweak, the middle brace has been done away with, the top brace has countersunk screws and generally the chasiss has been milled out slightly.

Nice piece of kit.... must get round to trying mine out..!! ;D

johnbull
24-10-2003, 08:44 AM
Hi friends. Greetings from Malta.

I have ordered all the Rayspeed CF bits, except the chassis. The reason is that with all those unnecessary holes everywhere it will probably flex even more than the standard SSG item.

So I have made my own CF chassis, being careful to only drill the holes that are absolutely necessary.

By redesigning some of the steering linkeages I have managed to move the servo further forward and have now more space for electrics. I am now able to move the cells further forward and further towards the centre.

I have driven the car, without the Rayspeed top deck and towers, but with my new chassis and it feels fine. It's actually quite a bit more responsive - and it flexes less.

Regards

Joe from sunny Malta.

TMOTORS
24-10-2003, 02:47 PM
Thanks guys, I'm new to this board but have been on other forums in the automotive industry.

I'm looking at either the Yok Sd or the Tamiya EVO SE, I like the Yok alot more however.

Would it make sense to build the car starting from the Rayspeed Chassis kit along with all the hop-ups such as aluminum hub carriers, Titanium everything or buy the base SSG kit and get the hop-ups afterwards.

I guess my question is: Is it cheaper to buy a complete kit then to get the components separately Ie: Rayspeed kit, Differential parts, front and rear arms , etc and is there Graphite Arms coming out because I've seen threads saying the stock arms break or have the tendency to break.

W

TMOTORS
24-10-2003, 03:11 PM
To add, I really tried to search for info on the kit so thanks for the info once again.

W

Scotty
24-10-2003, 05:23 PM
Best to buy the Kit first I reckon as otherwise you will pay a lot more for the entire car. Run that first .... get used to it and then depending on what you think will improve your times or handling etc ... buy bits from there...!

;D

johnbull
24-10-2003, 06:07 PM
TMOTORS. Greetings from Malta.

I agree entirely with Scotty. Buy the SSG SD first and run it as it is. It's a great car straight out of the box.

In any case I don't know that you can buy a ready boxed kit with the Rayspeed chassis etc.

Whilst I feel some alloy bits are beneficial for racing, I certainly don't think alloy hubs are. At least with the kit ones if you strip a thread they are easy to replace. The alloy ones strip threads just as easily but cost lots more to replace. he same applies with alloy wishbones. They may bend instead of snapping, but you still need to replace them......at a much higher cost.

There is another factor to consider if you intend to race. The SSG SD in standard form is not far off the BRCA weight limit. Adding alloy bits is going to make it heavier.

On the other hand, if it's looks you're after, then there's plenty of blue alloy available.

I must say I am very pleased with my Yoke and would only change it for a Corally Assassin. I'm very tempted.

Regards

Joe from sunny Malta.

TMOTORS
24-10-2003, 07:55 PM
Thanks guys,

It's been about 11 years since I raced in competition. I used to race 2wd buggy with a Jx-pro and bought a losi XX ( still have it ) I upgraded the XX to full Graphite and Titanium parts it was not used after that. I also raced with a RC10T so looking at a few awards I got during those years I felt the need to get back.

My brother in law always like on-road but back then the stock car bodies didn't spark my interest. He wasn't involved with the races but I told him I might be coming back into the races so we might get the same car and race locally

I just sold my Jrx-pro and a Tamiya Falcon on Ebay to get some funds for my Yokomo.

Anyone know of a great place either in Canada or US for the SSG kit and Rayspeed parts?


I'll post when I get the car, right now i'm selling off my older race gear to make room for a new car.

cobra81li200
25-10-2003, 11:09 AM
TMOTORS,

At the moment, it is not pissoble to buy a Rayspeed SD kit. However, the Rayspeed conversion kit seems to work better outdoors than indoors, so if you're running indoors (well, in Canada in this season I bet yes), then get the SSG and do not upgrade it.

And if you want more steering, you can make the 90° mod by drilling 2 holes in your SSG chassis, the mod works great outdoors, but I have not tryed it on carpet yet (but it can only be better).

For alloy parts, I just bought alloy steering blocks (from Suzuki), the std ones seemed weak to me, and it seems I was right as I saw some people destroying them.

It seems like yokomo is developing a new graphite plastic, and they're having troubles with the graphite/plastic ratio at the moment, reason why the graphite parts are still pending. Anyway, when the formula will be ready, we will have plenty of graphite parts.

Try NO NO NO NO!, do it by PM please, better still support the UK!

TMOTORS
25-10-2003, 03:34 PM
Thanks for the help guys, I'm not sure how it looked like I thought a Rayspeed SD kit existed. Maybe they should make one :)

I'll pick up the full car kit and then add parts as I go and as they become available.


In my area snow doesn't really hit until December , the real stuff in Feburary but it's too cool outside now to have any fun with a car so
there is lots of indoor tracks. 11 years ago there wasn't many indoor places to Race so things are better.

Keep you posted, I'll take some pics when I get the car.

cobra81li200
25-10-2003, 05:08 PM
TMOTORS,

Try NO NO NO NO!, do it by PM please, better still support the UK!


Hum, I agree (although I'm french so better support the French shops, hé hé hé), but he is NOT in UK, he lives in Canada...

scott taylor
28-10-2003, 12:18 PM
where did you get the rayspeed parts from as i have been trying get hold of them for ages now and cannot get them could you pease pm me with replys
thanx

Jono22
04-11-2004, 08:49 PM
Quote by John Bull

I have ordered all the Rayspeed CF bits, except the chassis. The reason is that with all those unnecessary holes everywhere it will probably flex even more than the standard SSG item.

It is suppose to flex more than the SD, yokomo used to design cars so chassis flex would create grip but with the SD chassis went to the more conventional way, let the suspension do it all. hence the rayspeed chassis.

I just brought not ran it yet but looking forward to doing so

Fausto2
05-11-2004, 09:08 AM
HI TMOTORS,

Regarding getting bits for your Yok in Canada, have a look at the Yokomo USA web site and go to the dealers section, it list the official importers for your country and the USA.

Fausto2
05-11-2004, 09:09 AM
you've also got a PM

johnbull
05-11-2004, 02:17 PM
Fausto, are you still at it too ?

We have been mentioning you recently as we may be doing the Milano - Taranto again this summer.

How's the Yoke going? My CGM gets better every day. Brilliant car !